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Both movements widely believe that the two party system is obsolete,
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Originally Posted by reconmark
Where does the coffee party make this statement??
Is it somewhere on their web site that I overlooked?
You didn't overlook anything. The Coffee Party believes in working within the system, cooperation not obstructionism like the Tea Party seems to advocate.
I don't think Faux news is fooling anyone other than those who fool themselves...
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On Wednesday morning, 2,225 patriots turned out at the “Kill the Bill” rally in St. Charles, Missouri.
They were expecting 600…… But, 2,225 turned out.
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Today, local liberals held their second Coffee Party to push for more socialism. 30 people turned out… Including the people who were already at the restaurant and the tea party infiltrators.
You should try giving up on the lame stream media (http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/03/fail-st-louis-libs-hold-coffee-party-30-people-show-up/ - broken link).
Who else thinks that a new political party needs to be invented to jolt the DC leadership to actually represent us?
Which is what the Coffee Party is all about, at least to those who attended the same meeting I did this afternoon. Our politics were all over the place, from far left to far right, but we all agreed that what needs to happen is for ALL politicians to start listening to the actual people who vote them in or out of office, instead of listening to some lobbyist or corporate poll taker's interpretation of what we the people want.
Is it somewhere on their web site that I overlooked?
I've never seen or heard anything like that from either the website or the group I met with this afternoon. Our main focus is to get the politicians of both parties to listen to 'we the people' instead of to corporations and lobbyists.
Unfortunately this "movement" is bound to fail and has zero chance of making any substantial changes. They support the status quo and are only a reactionary counter movement to an angered and disenfranchised electorate. Expecting our current representatives to cooperate for the voters best interests? HELLO EINSTEINS, they've been cooperating in serving their own self interests all along and are now only squabbling the few remaining crumbs of whats left. These folks are either so naive to be stupid or are completely phony.
In 3 months the coffee party will be talked about only by the media and have a few isolated events that are barely attended. They have no ideas, no answers, no grass roots support, and while politicians would LOVE them to channel anger away from an anti incumbent sentiment, they won't succeed at anything they talk about.
Unfortunately this "movement" is bound to fail and has zero chance of making any substantial changes. They support the status quo and are only a reactionary counter movement to an angered and disenfranchised electorate. Expecting our current representatives to cooperate for the voters best interests? HELLO EINSTEINS, they've been cooperating in serving their own self interests all along and are now only squabbling the few remaining crumbs of whats left. These folks are either so naive to be stupid or are completely phony.
In 3 months the coffee party will be talked about only by the media and have a few isolated events that are barely attended. They have no ideas, no answers, no grass roots support, and while politicians would LOVE them to channel anger away from an anti incumbent sentiment, they won't succeed at anything they talk about.
With all due respect you don't have a clue what will happen with the Coffee Party three months down the road. No one does. But in six weeks they managed to build a fan base of 142,000, hold over 400 local events, score a weekly radio talk show and get the attention of a lot of media interviews and articles. I'd say that's a good start.
With all due respect you don't have a clue what will happen with the Coffee Party three months down the road. No one does. But in six weeks they managed to build a fan base of 142,000, hold over 400 local events, score a weekly radio talk show and get the attention of a lot of media interviews and articles. I'd say that's a good start.
Bold emphasis mine.
Yes, and that's exactly why people like the poster you replied to are making these Bizarro World prognostications. Fear something? Dismiss it out-of-hand.
You didn't overlook anything. The Coffee Party believes in working within the system, cooperation not obstructionism like the Tea Party seems to advocate.
Thanks, I was being sarcastic. Some of these people are un-informed or shameless. Sometimes I don't know which one.
I don't think Faux news is fooling anyone other than those who fool themselves...
"Today, local liberals held their second Coffee Party to push for more socialism. 30 people turned out… Including the people who were already at the restaurant and the tea party infiltrators."
You should try giving up on the lame stream media (http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/03/fail-st-louis-libs-hold-coffee-party-30-people-show-up/ - broken link).
Sounds like Faux News is stirring the pot. Tea Party "infiltrators" ... GIVE ME A BREAK! How about middle Americans who only went to Tea Party events because it was the closest thing to their beliefs of smaller government and less spending? Or how about simply people who are curious? This is why I hate political pundits ... they think EVERYONE is hardcore political.
And the article seems to forget that most coffeehouses hold only a small number of people. 30 is a lot when you pack them into a restaurant or coffeehouse.
"Government is the answer".
Many want the healthcare bill passed.
"We have to stop the mantra of no taxes, no taxes"
And best of all..."The foundation of all of this (Tea Party) is racism".
Explains the favorable initial press in CNN and NYT. Tea party leans right, coffee leans left.
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