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A federal appeals court upheld the use of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency, rejecting arguments Thursday that the phrases violate the separation of church and state.
The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel rejected two legal challenges by Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow, who said the references to God are unconstitutional and infringe on his religious beliefs.
I'm sure you follow 9th Circuit decisions assiduously.
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Originally Posted by Miborn
Maybe it has something to do with states wanting to break away......
There are idiots in all 50 states. Some think "under God" belongs in the Pledge, some think some state or other should secede...there's really no way of predicting where the mind of an idiot might wander...
A federal appeals court upheld the use of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency, rejecting arguments Thursday that the phrases violate the separation of church and state.
The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel rejected two legal challenges by Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow, who said the references to God are unconstitutional and infringe on his religious beliefs.
I understand to say the pledge you would actually have to be committed to the country. Noe one can force you to say anything. I do not see people water boarding atheist.I know you do not need to validate your commitment to the country by uttering pledge.
why even stand up its just another right wing religious nut job fantasy. why should you even bother to stand up you should make a point
I take it you pretty much HATE this country; is that right?
Why do you want to take so much pride in the history of a nation that was built on the back of genocide, slavery and the outright theft of land from Mexico? I think that those people were pathetic myself. We need to move in a more European direction.
I think that the people you represent are pathetic myself. We need to STAY (or more aptly, REVERT) in a more AMERICAN direction.
I'm sure you follow 9th Circuit decisions assiduously.
There are idiots in all 50 states. Some think "under God" belongs in the Pledge, some think some state or other should secede...there's really no way of predicting where the mind of an idiot might wander...
It appears that the 9th did not follow your advice and counsel on this issue. I much presume your feelings are really hurt over this decision.
I'll pray for you and that you will recover quickly.
It appears that the 9th did not follow your advice and counsel on this issue.
Well, Reinhardt did...
Under no sound legal analysis adhering to binding Supreme Court precedent could this court uphold state-directed, teacher-led, daily recitation of the 'under God' version of the Pledge of Allegiance by children in public schools.
Kind of sums it up.
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Originally Posted by Greatday
I much presume your feelings are really hurt over this decision. I'll pray for you and that you will recover quickly.
Good luck with that. Nothing fails like prayer. Meanwhile my feelings simply aren't on the line every time a district court decides a case. The facts and the law happen to be squarely on the side of atheists in the Pledge matter, but the facts and the law are often not enough. Still, slaves were eventually freed, women were eventually allowed to vote and work outside the home after marriage, and the Pledge will eventually revert to its original, pre-Red Scare form -- the one that allows all Americans to recite it proudly, instead of just some.
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