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Old 04-28-2010, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I don't think wikipedia is a good source for scientific data. Do you think 36 to72% is a rather broad range and beg some questions? The daily tech blog as another scientific source? What is their source for all those statements.

So according to the research you indicated carbon levels are increasing on their own and have nothing to do with human generation of CO2? So why the coincidence with the increased level of human generated CO2?
Probably for the same reason for "the coincidence with the increased level of human generated" radio and TV radio frequency radiation or "the coincidence with the increased level of human generated" electricity or country & western music.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:28 PM
 
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The case for global warming stronger than ever..........

Especially during our summers..........
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:11 PM
 
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The case for global warming stronger than ever..........

Especially during our summers..........
Ironic since last winter had some of the coldest temps recorded in decades across the globe.

Also, during the age of the dinosaur that the earth was 10 degrees warmer and there was no ice at the poles.

So much for the case...

Last edited by SandraMoore66; 04-28-2010 at 10:27 PM..
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:09 AM
 
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Something we can agree on so whats your solution other than crticizing the science. What is your plan to make us a healthier world, 50 more years of studies to prove without any possible doubt?
Well for starters instead of increasing the cost of energy you decrease it's usage, you don't do that by forcing people into it but instead offer incentives. For example we could offer homeowners no interest loans to go out and buy new windows and insulation. I've had customers in the past cut their heating bills in half adding windows and insulation. This could be repaid by first estimating their current energy bills and keeping them at that rate. The difference would go to pay back the loan, within a decade they'll have them paid for. 10 years down the road the homeowner has nice windows and is paying half of what they were before for heating and cooling costs.

I'm just giving this as an example and there is many problems such as not getting the loan repaid but it's a far better approach than handing out 100's of billions to subsidize the production of very expensive electricity generated from renewables.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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They will say anything to convince ppl that global warming is real. This article is just a scare tactic. This is them going to extreme to keep their pockets full of our money. Also to control our behavior and usage but the elite peddling this stuff don't do anything to control their own. I think they are the one's suffering from mental illness.

Government Report Say Global Warming May Cause Cancer,Mental Illness
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:51 AM
 
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I agree that the evidence smells stronger than ever.
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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Mr. Gore does not believe the oceans will rise since he bought an $8.8 million dollar mansion with ocean views. He's getting rich off of swindling the stupid and bleeding the government dry.
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:08 AM
 
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Cleaning up the environment, conserving resources, energy independence..all good things...at the price of destroying the US economy and making us look like Greece...not so much
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:22 AM
 
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Their study just reinforced what their opponents have been saying, the warming we have been experiencing, since the end of the little ice-age is normal, and is not "unprecedented", and it shoots down alarmist talk from those like al Gore.
It was written by Keith Briffa and Phil Jones....
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:32 AM
 
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Glad to see you have finally come around to accepting ice core samples. You will also agree that NASA's findings that Methane and CO2 levels in Antartica are now the highest they have been in over 400,000 years. By the way most will agree that there was a medieval warming period in norther europe and greenland, not the remainder of the earth.

Paleoclimatology: The Ice Core Record : Feature Articles

also information on Greenland glacier retreat:

NASA - Fastest Glacier in Greenland Doubles Speed

You must not have been following along for long....


Ice Core samples have never been in question. And as I have pointed out in this thread, there are now solid sediment records showing a MWP in the southern hemisphere...

I have also pointed out (repeatedly) records from South America that show MWP there as well.

Vostok (sp) Ice Cores have also shown that CO2 rise follows temperature rise by as much as 800 years. There is no evidence that CO2 causes forcing that will tip climate drastically.
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