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Old 03-17-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I find it very hard to understand how you can believe that abortion is so evil, but the loss of innocent lives during war is justifiable. Makes no sense to me.
Because they're prolife until birth. After that, you're on your own. I don't see a whole lot of people talking to women entering a clinic, telling them they can help out with the prenatal care and the woman/child...but I do see a lot of graphic posters and yelling.....

I know there are places that will help the woman out, but they're few and far between.
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Nope, a baby can survive with the support of any person. A baby can survive with the support of artificial nutrition. A FETUS cannot survive without being attached to one woman only.
What if artificial nutrition is not available? (It isn't in many places around the world, and certainly not at almost any non-hospital setting)

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Just because you believe it to be a life, doesn't make that a fact. If you believe a fetus to be a human life, then I suggest you don't have an abortion. Until it can survive outside of the womb, it is a part of an already living woman's body, and it is her choice to decide how to handle the pregnancy.
I'm sorry, but it is a life. That's established. What do you think, he/she suddenly becomes alive at birth? Even organisms which have a parasitic relationship with their hosts are living.

Again, those experienced with making pro-choice arguments don't debate whether the fetus is alive, because biology has already established that fact. They debate personhood.
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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I find it very hard to understand how you can believe that abortion is so evil, but the loss of innocent lives during war is justifiable. Makes no sense to me.
Are you capable of reading?

Note that I said "unfortunately". Innocent lives lost during war is a tragedy and directly targeting innocents (as in total war) is never justifiable.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Planned Parenthood in 1952: Abortion “kills the life of a baby” | Live Action Blog – Human Rights, Abortion, and Life


This is a copy of a pamphlet from Planned Parenthood in 1952 stating abortion kills a baby.

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/Planned-Parenthood-Pamphlet-Abortio.jpg (broken link)
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Planned Parenthood in 1952: Abortion “kills the life of a baby” | Live Action Blog – Human Rights, Abortion, and Life


This is a copy of a pamphlet from Planned Parenthood in 1952 stating abortion kills a baby.

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/Planned-Parenthood-Pamphlet.gif (broken link)
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/Planned-Parenthood-Pamphlet-Abor-1.jpg (broken link)
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:45 PM
 
Location: California
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Huh. I'm thinking what is written in old brochures really isn't the litmus test in this case. There is a lot of "old stuff written" that we don't adhear to these days. I wonder why.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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actually yeah...the 14 year old should raise the kid....or put it up for adoption. I would rather support the kid with my taxes than to support the killing of the kid

great way to continue the cycle of poverty and abuse. most unwanted children live a life with absent of love, support. many live in poverty or live with a parent that is drug addicted or criminal. with this type of life as a role model it is no wonder that we have a never ending cycle of people on welfare, abused children both physically, mentally and sexually.

I consider it child abuse to let even a healthy 14 year old go through pregnancy and give birth, yet alone raise a child
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:32 PM
 
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this ad was when abortion was illegal.

pro choice people are not stupid we know what abortion is and still support the right to choice.
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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No...I don't "wanna see" anything. You seem more concerned about people beliving you could have had sex than you ought.

You can disagree with anything you like, but as long as you don't impregnate anyone abortion will never be something you have to worry about. Other peope will live with their own decisions and mistakes.

nah baby....lol...i have to tell people who i am before they can set me up for judgment..as far as the telling people about sex thing goes because some people think the other person on the other side of the argument on here might wear a pocket protector or something...lol...just informing people to look at my pics so they know i had self control...that's all it is..because no one knows me personally so...but back to life..back to reality...Ceece Penniston...lol..just kidding ....but i agree to disagree with u about abortion...and you're right..i won't have to worry if i don't impregnate anyone, but i promise you or any woman i'm with that i will not leave you alone if u think u need an abortion...i would rather remain with someone i don't like just to let that kid ..."my kid"..have a life..but too bad some guys out here wouldn't do the same...thanks for the post
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