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Old 03-15-2010, 10:06 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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The article that you quoted says that they are converting temps to full time but at a much less intense rate than in prior recession. I'd call it just playing around not really believing that it is going to be better.

They aren't moving forwards with gusto and vigor. They are holding back.
They're still nervous, but that will change.
Afterall, it wasn't long ago they were refusing to hire at all - then they started hiring part-timers and temp workers - and NOW they are starting to hire permanent workers.
It's been a very deep recession, but like all recessions, recovery is on it's way.



Ken
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:10 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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No one I have known who has worked as a temp, in any kind of economy, has ever been made permanent. When the company wants a permanent employee, someone else gets hired. My friend worked for a temp agency, and she put in for a job when it became permanent. Not only was she not hired, she had to train the person who was, before she was let go! That is just one example, but temps seem to be in a different "loop".
Whether it's the temp worker who gets the permanent position or someone else is really pretty irrelevent in regards to the jobs converting to permanent positions. What's important to the economy is that the jobs ARE starting to be transformed into permanent positions. This shows increasing confidence on the part the business that the recovery is real and permanent. Something the Obamabashers here STILL refuse to face.



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Old 03-15-2010, 10:15 PM
 
Location: southern california
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temps are treated really badly. i did it for a year, a hellish experience and others suffered much more than me.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:27 PM
 
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Where my wife worked any temp that was doing good was the first the person likely to get hired. They actaully liked it because it gave them a chnce to see the erosn perform without having to do the normal 6 month employeee probation. When the person was hired she/she was given credit for time worked on the probation perio many being permanent right away.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:21 PM
 
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I suspect there will be more firings, and then re-hirings as employers begin to take advantage of the tax credit for hiring through the latest JOBS bill (you know, the one necessary because the Spendulus part 1 didn't create jobs).
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:22 PM
 
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As I've been saying...

As the economy improved late last year, cautious employers hired temporary workers—a cheaper way to beef up their staff. Now, staffing firms are beginning to see their clients convert temporary workers to permanent positions, a sign of a possible job recovery. “Companies are getting comfortable enough about the economy,†said Rob Wilson, president of Employco Group, a nationwide staffing firm.

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Companies began converting staffers from temp to permanent positions in late December but “it picked up steam†in January and February, said Wilson, a trend that other firms—Adecco, Manpower and Kelly Services have also seen.


News Headlines (http://www.cnbc.com/id/35836419 - broken link)



Ken
Great sign; let's hope.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:38 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I suspect there will be more firings, and then re-hirings as employers begin to take advantage of the tax credit for hiring through the latest JOBS bill (you know, the one necessary because the Spendulus part 1 didn't create jobs).
And yet jobs ARE being created aren't they?
After all, the companies in question HAVE said they starting to hire - and not just starting to hire, but starting to hire for PERMANENT positions (they've been hiring for temporary positions for several months now).

So much for what you "suspect".

Face it, job creation is beginning.



Ken
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:44 PM
 
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And yet jobs ARE being created aren't they?
After all, the companies in question HAVE said they starting to hire - and not just starting to hire, but starting to hire for PERMANENT positions (they've been hiring for temporary positions for several months now).

So much for what you "suspect".

Face it, job creation is beginning.



Ken
This is not job creation, it may be the beginnings of recovering a small percentage of jobs. Creation would have to take place after all lost jobs were recovered. The net gain is still negative compared to pre-recession employment levels.

It takes more than a passing rain cloud to recover from a drought.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:46 PM
 
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And yet jobs ARE being created aren't they?
After all, the companies in question HAVE said they starting to hire - and not just starting to hire, but starting to hire for PERMANENT positions (they've been hiring for temporary positions for several months now).

So much for what you "suspect".

Face it, job creation is beginning.



Ken
Noooooooooooo!!!!!!

"Well... yeah, the economy'll start to come back, just in time for our guys to get elected in 2010 as long as they keep pushing the hate, and then our guys'll take all the credit! Yeah!"
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:50 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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This is not job creation, it may be the beginnings of recovering a small percentage of jobs. Creation would have to take place after all lost jobs were recovered. The net gain is still negative compared to pre-recession employment levels.

It takes more than a passing rain cloud to recover from a drought.
Wrong!
Job creation begins with job creation - NOT when "all lost jobs were recovered" - that's when the economy HAS recovered, not when it STARTS recovering.
We have a ways to go until we have a net gain - but it's got to start somewhere - and it STARTING NOW - whether you agree or not.



Ken
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