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So far the only thing the federal government has done to me this past year is cut my taxes, bring the economy back from the brink of disaster and help fix a health care system that isn't working for me or my family. MY parents and ancestors never had to pay such a high cost for basic health care as I do.
What has the government told you to do? What has REALLY changed in your life this past year (other than paying less in taxes)? What part of your life is the government running?
How has the GOVT cut your taxes when new taxes are constantly being added? The GOVT hasn't brought back the economy in the slightest and the health care system is not FIXED one bit. WHOPPIED DOO- Obama thinks his plan with give coverage to everyone.. well, lets just see how great that coverage is. I bet you 10:1 it will be worse than ever
Our ancestors were very strong and independent people who pulled up roots when their governments wanted to run their lives. Tell them what to do and when to do it. Step in to take over their families and shut down their freedom.
What would our ancestors think now of our country?
What the government gives you the government can take away.
To some degree. However...........
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The Boston Tea Party of 1773 signaled not only a victory over the economic tyranny of the East India Company, it also helped pave the way for the political uprising known as the American Revolution. Also around this time, Adam Smith published the Wealth of Nations, arguing for free market economics, but against the concept of large corporations, claiming that they limit fair competition among smaller-sized merchants and artisans.
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originally posted by janelle144 our ancestors were very strong and independent people who pulled up roots when their governments wanted to run their lives. Tell them what to do and when to do it. Step in to take over their families and shut down their freedom.
What would our ancestors think now of our country?
What the government gives you the government can take away.
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if i were you're parents i would demand an instant and total refund of all monies spent on your education. You were obviously short-changed if you think "our" ancestors pulled up roots because the government was telling them how to run their lives.
I do agree with the OP, because I did get an education in history. Why is it in today's time people insist on re-writing history to suit.
History 101 (the link is provided for reading and learning you know)
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The Colonial Period
The old colonial system was obviously inadequate to these tasks. Measures to establish a new one, however, would rouse the latent suspicions of colonials who increasingly would see Britain as no longer a protector of their rights, but rather a danger to them.
Our ancestors came here why? Oh an here's a good one, what was the first Tea Party all about. The Boston Tea Party? Why'd they do that?
I don't know what is going on with people today. It's incomprehensible what every one seems to come up with so as to justify the unjust of today's government. It baffles my mind.
I heard a man today on the radio talking. He came to America from Romania to escape their government 20 years ago. He said it's scary to him because it is as if the Romanian government followed him here.
Few people are hearing the words from people who live in other countries and can see, compare and warn...
Here is your Utopia
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Early communism
Further information: Primitive communism, Religious communism, and Utopian socialism
Karl Heinrich Marx saw primitive communism as the original, hunter-gatherer state of humankind from which it arose. For Marx, only after humanity was capable of producing surplus, did private property develop.[citation needed]
In the history of Western thought, certain elements of the idea of a society based on common ownership of property can be traced back to ancient times .[citation needed] Examples include the Spartacus slave revolt in Rome.[24] The fifth century Mazdak movement in what is now Iran has been described as "communistic" for challenging the enormous privileges of the noble classes and the clergy, criticizing the institution of private property and for striving for an egalitarian society.[25] Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the people refused to believe...
And so it was the day had come that American history was re-written.
Obama's ancestors are the ones who built this nation ( well one side of his ancestors). Did you know slaves actually built the white house?
If only they could have known that one day a black man would honor them by being elected president.
it does not look good. we get involved in long expensive wars and big spending projects that the citizens are clearly against. the government tells us they alone are responsible for the borders but dont do the job.minutemen NRA and tea baggers are seen as dangerous subversives. very disturbing. the worst being the criminalization of self defense. people no longer defend themselves instead they move frequently.
The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act for a variety of reasons, especially because they believed that it violated their right to be taxed only by their own elected representatives. Protesters had successfully prevented the unloading of taxed tea in three other colonies, but in Boston, embattled Royal Governor Thomas Hutchinson refused to allow the tea to be returned to Britain. He apparently did not expect that the protestors would choose to destroy the tea rather than concede the authority of a legislature in which they were not directly represented. Boston Tea Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Taxation Without Representation
Before we look at the Boston Tea Party itself and the events immediately preceding it, it's important to examine how such great tensions between the American colonists and the British government developed. At its core, the Boston Tea Party was a conflict over taxation. You may have heard the phrase "taxation without representation," which developed in this era. Unlike their British brethren, the people living in the 13 colonies did not have direct representatives in the British parliament. Because of that, the colonists had no way to vote for how they would be taxed or who would represent them. And because of this lack of representation, the British government was free to tax the colonists in any way -- and for any amount -- that it saw fit. With no way to fight taxation and no way to claim their rights, many colonists feared that their property could be taken away through debilitating taxes. HowStuffWorks "Taxation Without Representation"
The way I interpret it is
Less Government in Our Lives! As they too wanted less government in their lives.
I guess no one wants to own any thing independently any more. oh well...there goes the neighborhood.
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They wanted representation.
And who where they looking to for representation? Did they look to the country they left? What did they see they needed changed? What steps did they take to change it? The Revolutionary war(s) took place and people fought hard and died for our freedoms we are more than happy to give back today.
So far many people have decided that it was not less government in their lives that brought them here. When in deed it was.
As the American government continues to gain more power over our lives and tells us what we can do, how we can do it and who we will be doing it for...history must be re-written to show this is all how it was meant to be in the first place.
We must justify this new era through away to make it all okay. So as we can live with ourselves tomorrow.
Our ancestors came here because they wanted to represent themselves. They wanted their voices to be heard. They wanted to be self-governing.
However, no one wants to do it any more. They have grown tired in their efforts and they look to the organized government to bail them out. All the while knowing with that help there in the end is a give back. The American people are okay with that today. They refuse to acknowledge the give back as it serves no purpose in meeting with the end results.
The great change for the American people is to change back to the very roots that brought our ancestors here to begin with, as they have grown weary from their efforts, tired of their failures in management, and have decided they need the government now to pick them back up.
When the boundary gets crossed and the American people choose to take back the freedom, of their voice to be heard, and decide to represent themselves again with out government intervention & control, another war will take place on this soil.
And who where they looking to for representation? Did they look to the country they left? What did they see they needed changed? What steps did they take to change it? The Revolutionary war(s) took place and people fought hard and died for our freedoms we are more than happy to give back today.
So far many people have decided that it was not less government in their lives that brought them here. When in deed it was.
As the American government continues to gain more power over our lives and tells us what we can do, how we can do it and who we will be doing it for...history must be re-written to show this is all how it was meant to be in the first place.
We must justify this new era through away to make it all okay. So as we can live with ourselves tomorrow.
Our ancestors came here because they wanted to represent themselves. They wanted their voices to be heard. They wanted to be self-governing.
However, no one wants to do it any more. They have grown tired in their efforts and they look to the organized government to bail them out. All the while knowing with that help there in the end is a give back. The American people are okay with that today. They refuse to acknowledge the give back as it serves no purpose in meeting with the end results.
The great change for the American people is to change back to the very roots that brought our ancestors here to begin with, as they have grown weary from their efforts, tired of their failures in management, and have decided they need the government now to pick them back up.
When the boundary gets crossed and the American people choose to take back the freedom, of their voice to be heard, and decide to represent themselves again with out government intervention & control, another war will take place on this soil.
To answer you first question, I think at first they wanted representation in the British Parliament. Only when it was obvious that wasn't going to happen, did they revolt.
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Whose brainwashing who?
