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View Poll Results: Would you like to see the U.S. split up?
Yes 40 37.04%
No 58 53.70%
Not sure 10 9.26%
Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-23-2010, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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And I agree with you...sort of. I just don't think it's realistic. We basically have an entire group of people in our country who are, well...useless. I hate to use that word. But it's true. They are completely useless. We have to keep them healthy, fed, and housed so that they don't make us sick and so that they don't come and steal our stuff. So we really have no choice but to provide assistance. No amount of intervention is ever going to change the way that population thinks. It's an entire generation of entitlement. They are not going to go to work not because they can't find jobs, but because they don't see the value.

Look at the people coming into our country from Mexico...both those here legally and illegally. They have found jobs. They are some of the hardest working people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. We have people who come into this country without even the ability to speak our language. And yet they find work. So how is it possible that we have an entire generation of people who are educated in our public schools and who are given handouts left and right, that cannot find work. It doesn't make sense.
No we really don't have to keep them healthy and fit. At all. Enough of taking care of people because you know what happens? They sit on their ass and do nothing. Which is what the Politicians love. I am not without compassion. But it is not the responsibility of those that strive and work to carry those that do not. If they try to steal from us? We shoot them. Plain and simple. I gurantee it won't take long for them to get the message.

And I hate to tell you and be the bearer of bad news but I have worked side by side with Mexicans from Mexico and no, they all aren't some of the hardest working people. In fact, the ones I worked with were lazy as Hell. They work hard because they have kids or car payments and don't want to get fired and aren't on welfare.

Don't give a man fish. Teach him how to fish. And hunt. Not on the Xbox either.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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If I think for a few minutes, a "blue" nation would be quite nice:

We'd have NYC, Boston, Chicago, DC, Minneapolis, LA, SF, Seattle, etc..

We'd get some great farmland in IA, MI, MN, WI and IL, and we'd control the Great Lakes, along with the St. Lawrence Seaway..

We'd have CA! ( and WA and OR, too)...

We'd have New England, and both coasts..

We'd have great universities, tourism, natural scenery..and..

We'd have the ACELA, or Amtrak's high-speed NE Corridor train

But I don't want to think about it TOO much...

more than likely you would have the east coast down to the bottom of washington dc, the west coat, but california would be a desert because most of its water comes from red states. most of the mid west you would not have and you would have no fly over states. most of the prime farmland would remain in red states hands, and you would be hungry and still trying to feed an influx of people getting on your entitlement programs. because we would have little of it.


natural scenery? what, the concrete jungles in the ne?

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Old 03-23-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Associating those who would exercise civil disobedience with McVeigh is something I'd expect from a public education alumnus.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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Oh my goodness. The United States isn't going to split up over this. Obama is on his way out. His approval rate is 31% Source Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢
31% is the percentage of Americans who "strongly approve" of his job performance. Add in the percentage who "somewhat approve" and it's 48%.

You should also consider other polls. Most of them have him around 50% approval.

In addition, consider that there's over 31 months to go before the Presidential election of 2012. To say that Obama is "on his way out" is premature, to say the least.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Associating those who would exercise civil disobedience with McVeigh is something I'd expect from a public education alumnus.
Sorry bud but McVeigh & the current GOP radicals are one in the same. And will end up exactly like their saint Timothy! Executed! So be it!
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Sorry bud but McVeigh & the current GOP radicals are one in the same.
Sure they are, my tin foil hatted friend.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Sorry bud but McVeigh & the current GOP radicals are one in the same. And will end up exactly like their saint Timothy! Executed! So be it!

yeah right, I would put tim mcveigh in the same hat as the federal goverment. they both murder to push their cause.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:39 PM
 
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I think we should start by splitting up City-Data. Then after we see how smoothly that goes we can consider the possiblity of dividing up the country.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Sure they are, my tin foil hatted friend.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Rotten fruits & nuts!
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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If I think for a few minutes, a "blue" nation would be quite nice:

We'd have NYC, Boston, Chicago, DC, Minneapolis, LA, SF, Seattle, etc..

We'd get some great farmland in IA, MI, MN, WI and IL, and we'd control the Great Lakes, along with the St. Lawrence Seaway..

We'd have CA! ( and WA and OR, too)...

We'd have New England, and both coasts..

We'd have great universities, tourism, natural scenery..and..

We'd have the ACELA, or Amtrak's high-speed NE Corridor train

But I don't want to think about it TOO much...
My GF is from WI so you may want to rethink WI. NOT a liberal state. You can have East coast And West Coast and LIKE IT!!!
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