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Old 03-23-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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False again. If I lived in a state that did not require financial liability insurance, and then entered into NJ, I would not be required to acquire insurance while there.. The law is based upon where you live, NOT where you are driving...

correct, however if you are stopped, you will be issued a ticket for driving without insurance. If you get into an accident, again you will be ticketed and possibly towed for driving without insurance. Troopers love to see out of state plates driving along.
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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Great, hard-hitting post, except for two leetle things:

1.) There is no Federal mandatory automobile insurance. Nor is there any other kind of Federal automobile insurance.
2.) There is no State mandatory automobile insurance.

Aside from these points, your whiney post is as accurate as they ever are.

Better luck next time.

great post.
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:37 PM
 
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Not only do children turn into industrious adults, but they pay taxes, thereby lowering the economic burden on the rest of us. And isn't that the lame excuse for why we must all buy insurance, because if we do not, the government assumes that we will add to the economic burden of the rest of society?
I hear that is how the federal government decides what the acceptable debt level is.. By determining the value of the income of the citizens, and then the taxable income to then cover the debt load.. Hell, our future is even mortgaged by the government..
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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1. You have a choice to own a car. But if you do, why should government come in the way of forcing you to buy insurance? (Local, state or federal... is immaterial).
2. You don't have a choice when it comes to "owning" health. If it were a choice, I agree, mandate to all would not make sense.
Probably because the argument can be made that if you drive a car poorly, you could injure or kill a lot of people on the road, and maybe even the passengers in your car. If you break your leg walking down the steps, or come down with a sinus infection or even cancer, you are not a liability to other people.

There is a definite risk to the health and safety of others when you drive a 3,000 lb car at 70 mph on our highways, or even 35 mph in our city streets.

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Besides, I think it will be interesting to see mandate piece getting killed... less funding from health insurance companies to tea baggers and more support for public option.
Don't worry, 0bama and the democrats have engineered this health care bill to utterly destroy the insurance companies, so it will not matter what we do, in a few years there will not be any health care insurance companies left, and the same democrats will do their best to appear shocked, that UHC is needed.
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:41 PM
 
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correct, however if you are stopped, you will be issued a ticket for driving without insurance. If you get into an accident, again you will be ticketed and possibly towed for driving without insurance. Troopers love to see out of state plates driving along.
You might be issued a ticket for driving without insurance if you get pulled over but a very quick notification to the judge that you are not required insurance will have the ticket thrown out..

The reason why troopers love to see out of state plates is because most of the time the tickets will not be fought due to the time and cost involved in traveling back. It has nothing at all to do with a lack of insurance for states where insurance is not mandated. (currently just NH)
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:44 PM
 
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You might be issued a ticket for driving without insurance if you get pulled over but a very quick notification to the judge that you are not required insurance will have the ticket thrown out..

The reason why troopers love to see out of state plates is because most of the time the tickets will not be fought due to the time and cost involved in traveling back. It has nothing at all to do with a lack of insurance for states where insurance is not mandated. (currently just NH)

LMAO...yeah..see how far that arguement takes you in NJ traffic courts, mainly the heavily republican suburban areas. LMAO....That was a good one though.
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Where do you think the states derive their authority to write insurance mandates from?

Think about it.
The US Constitution? The place where it limits the powers of the federal government.
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I hear that is how the federal government decides what the acceptable debt level is.. By determining the value of the income of the citizens, and then the taxable income to then cover the debt load.. Hell, our future is even mortgaged by the government..
So, a mandate for everyone to get married and have children will be along soon. Yes, you will have to get married, making bastards and forcing the state to raise them would be an economic burden on the rest of society.
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:08 PM
 
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Didn't you all hear???? Obama now wants to nationalize auto insurance.



Well maybe not so as I don't put it past his administration to try to take that over from the states.
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:10 PM
 
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Why not, you just equated health insurance to auto insurance, the next logical step is to dispute your argument that if a state can limit something, then the federal government can just as well. I sighted a very clear example as to where you are wrong..
OK so you think the speed limit is a right. May I ask just what speed you think you have a right to drive.

As far as the rest of your wrong thinking lets look at it like this. The federal Government says a women has the right of choice. I ask you can a state deny her that right? Let me help you here the answer is no. So if you want to challenge health care as a mandate then you have to challenge all mandates.
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