Those not required to file income tax returns, exempt from healthcare? (interstate, Congress)

[pghquest]

Health Care Reform Moves To The Court – 24/7 Wall St.

Some portions of Americans do not pay their taxes. People with incomes below a certain level are not always required to file with the IRS on an annual basis at all. The use of the IRS as a health care monitoring agency is imperfect at best.

The new legislation will force all Americans to have health care. Virginia AG Kenneth Cuccinelli II, a founder of Fairfax, Va.-based firm Cuccinelli & Day, said that “just being alive is not interstate commerce,” reports the Richmond Times-Dispatch. “If it were, Congress could regulate every aspect of our lives.”

[old_cold]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Health Care Reform Moves To The Court – 24/7 Wall St.

Some portions of Americans do not pay their taxes. People with incomes below a certain level are not always required to file with the IRS on an annual basis at all. The use of the IRS as a health care monitoring agency is imperfect at best.

The new legislation will force all Americans to have health care. Virginia AG Kenneth Cuccinelli II, a founder of Fairfax, Va.-based firm Cuccinelli & Day, said that “just being alive is not interstate commerce,” reports the Richmond Times-Dispatch. “If it were, Congress could regulate every aspect of our lives.”

I did read that one of the versions....Senate or Reconciliation, don't remember which.....used not needing to file as a basis for being exempt from a penalty, so.........................

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by old_cold

I did read that one of the versions....Senate or Reconciliation, don't remember which.....used not needing to file as a basis for being exempt from a penalty, so.........................

Since the IRS is the current proposed enforcement agency, they would not be able to determine for those who dont file returns, if they have insurance or not. Its one of the objections filed by a state.

[Boompa]

Bigger question would be, Income that low should result in a sizeable subsidy to pay for Health Insurance, so it would probably pay to file.

[Spazkat9696]

The subsidy will go to the insurance companies not directly to the person buying the insurance, so really that's not an incentive to file.

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by Spazkat9696

The subsidy will go to the insurance companies not directly to the person buying the insurance, so really that's not an incentive to file.

So the person filing can then keep the money he would have paid the Insurance Company, sounds like incentive to me

[old_cold]

Originally Posted by Boompa

So the person filing can then keep the money he would have paid the Insurance Company, sounds like incentive to me

Maybe not...they then might be subject to the penalty

[Spazkat9696]

Plus if you made so little money you didn't have to file you're probably now covered by medicaid. At least that's my understanding. I could be wrong.

[old_cold]

Originally Posted by Spazkat9696

Plus if you made so little money you didn't have to file you're probably now covered by medicaid. At least that's my understanding. I could be wrong.

The Medicaid eligibility is supposed to be raised to $30,000.
The calculator I just used was not reflecting that....showed a family of 3....single, not married with a $20,000 income getting a credit and not Medicaid.
So caution on the calculators being accurate or even close.......for more reasons than just this one

[MasterOfPuppets]

The largest beneficiaries of the health care scam are individuals who don't pay taxes at all, unless forced to through federally withheld on their paychecks.