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Hopefully the supporters of a measure to legalize marijuana will not do nothing and sit on their rear ends assuming it will pass like the opponents of Prop 8 did nothing and assumed it would be defeated.
The One's probably talking about the possibility of the pro-pot legalization forces running an inept campaign and thus allowing their opponents to win.
Sometimes you're playing a game in a broken system, and have to deal with it.
This is such a situation.
I mean let's say the right thing was done and states were allowed to decide how to handle the issue. Congressmen would be thrown out on their ass in the next election. Those of us that operate in political reality get that, and thus have no real choice if we want to get something accomplished.
Agreed. I for one think that marijuana, along with MANY items including gay marriages for example fall within state jurisdiction and should be decided on a state by state basis. This also goes for healthcare. Either the federal government has jurisidiction to oversee everything in our life, or they dont..
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Originally Posted by brubaker
There is compromise in regards to carrying out who gets arrested and charged with breaking the law.
There is always compromise...you cannot arrest everyone who breaks every law.
Period.
True, but if you completely stop enforcing the law, how is this fair to those sitting in jail because they were convicted of a crime no longer being enforced? No one has gotten out of jail because its STILL illegal. If its right for individuals to use marijuana now, then indeed those sitting in jail for doing so should be let go would you not agree?
By Obama just now stating they will no longer enforce the law, this does not allow those in jail to be released where if one legalizes it, they can indeed be allowed to go home. You cant retroactively charge an individual with a crime, but indeed when you legalize an illegal act, those in jail for that crime can go home..
True, but if you completely stop enforcing the law, how is this fair to those sitting in jail because they were convicted of a crime no longer being enforced? No one has gotten out of jail because its STILL illegal. If its right for individuals to use marijuana now, then indeed those sitting in jail for doing so should be let go would you not agree? By Obama just now stating they will no longer enforce the law, this does not allow those in jail to not pay the punishment that those doing similar acts take part in..
I think we're in agreement here.
The issue is that, unless it's pushed at the state level the federal government isn't going to adopt it. I can't think of any recent social changes that weren't pushed at the state level to some degree first before they were adopted at the federal level. I'm optimistic that if enough states adopt it, then the federal government will end up adopting it and people sent to prison for it will be released. That might take a couple decades, but change is slow
I mean you're stating how things should be, and that's great, but it's just not how things are. I don't really feel like joining any causes that will fundamentally change the system at the federal level since I've resolved to the fact that it's basically never going to happen.
The executive branch not enforcing the law is at least one step in the right direction, even if it is dependent on the administration. I think most of us agree that this is better than absolutely nothing. I mean I'm not going to fight for it at the federal level yet because I know that it's way outside the bounds of what's actually possible.
I agree that those in jail for marijuana alone should go home. Every punishment over marijuana should be reversed. We need to uphold personal civil rights and liberties like a free country should!
I don't know whats worse, the fact that the state of california is even considering making this legal, or the absolute stupidity of the comments from people on the website.... Either way liberals have officially hijacked this country as far as I'm concerned.
Even if California makes marijuana legal it still wont be legal. Federal law overrules state law..
If the law passes in California, which it most likely will, there will be no inforcement, so the Feds ca go pound sand.
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