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Old 03-26-2010, 11:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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47% don't pay any federal income tax


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47% of households owe no tax - and their ranks are growing - CNN Money

Surprised you didn't know. It's common knowledge that there's a whole lot of people getting a free ride.
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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47% don't pay any federal income tax


link?

47% of households owe no tax - and their ranks are growing - Sep. 30, 2009

Plenty of links out there if you don't like this one.
Just google "47% of Americans do not pay income taxes".

This includes those that get 100% refunds and those that actually get more back than what they paid in due to credits. And that number is growing.
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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A 40 year mortgage won't work if the house is not worth the mortgage on it. Remember housing values have fallen, after being highly inflated before the bubble burst.

errrmmmm, didn't John MCain propose this in 2008???
No clue if McCain made such a proposal.

If you don't like the "extend the loan" option, what would you suggest? And, if the taxpayers do bail out these mortgages, what happens if/when the real estate market rebounds? Will the amount of the loan that was forgiven be added back to the loan or will the homeowner just get a nice bonus courtesy of the American taxpayers?
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:04 PM
 
Location: California
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I think we need to bite the bullet on most of these mortgages and just let them foreclose. It's not like people will be homeless if they aren't homeowners.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think we need to bite the bullet on most of these mortgages and just let them foreclose. It's not like people will be homeless if they aren't homeowners.
Renting is a viable alternative. Plus much cheaper if the home gets sold at a lower price.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:06 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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47% of households owe no tax - and their ranks are growing - CNN Money

Surprised you didn't know. It's common knowledge that there's a whole lot of people getting a free ride.

Some people think paying their 20 cents for a pack of cancer sticks is paying their fair share of taxes.

What we need to find a way to force those who are getting a free ride to finally pay UP and earn their right to use our tax paying items.

NO MORE FREE RIDES.

PAY UP OR LEAVE.

Everyone needs to pay their fair share, everyone.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think we need to bite the bullet on most of these mortgages and just let them foreclose. It's not like people will be homeless if they aren't homeowners.
Some people will be homeless though, especially if they don't have a job to support themselves.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:11 PM
 
Location: California
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Some people will be homeless though, especially if they don't have a job to support themselves.
If they have no money they can't maintain a house anyway. There is more to owning a home than the mortgage payment, people forget that.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I suggest all the non paying loans be foreclosed and the housed dumped on the open market an sold for what they will bring. This way everybody loses in the bust not just the previous owners and the taxpayers. The speculators betting on the mortgage based securities also get shafted.

That is the way a speculative boom is supposed to bust.

It would also provide a LOT of cheap housing for anyone capable of putting down 20% of a McMansion devalued 60% to 80% or so.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Some people will be homeless though, especially if they don't have a job to support themselves.
If they don't have a job they can go to a shelter.
Many move back in with family.

If you have no job you cannot meet your financial obligations.
If you cannot do that then you need to alter your lifestyle to match up with reality.
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