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Old 03-27-2010, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Vice President Joe Biden, in a visit to George W. Bush's hometown, said Friday that President Barack Obama's ability to sell his agenda to Americans has been hampered by the failures of his predecessor.

Speaking at two Dallas fundraisers, Biden said the Bush administration soured the American people on government and politics with its out-of-control spending, severe job losses and mishandling of two wars.

Biden says Obama's troubles rooted in failures of Bush years | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:46 PM
 
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I thnik Biden is failing to take into account who since WWII has the american people trusted and who are they now down on. Obama has dropped like a rock and the democratic congress is at 14% the lowest in history. I think it may have something to do with the stimulus;speacil deals and failure to do any thing for mainstreet while tripling the budget in one year.People may not understand all the bills but they notice when you spend more than the previous administration ansd get no results.Spend billions;no results Obama. Afetr 758 billion for promised infrastruture imporvements and creat enough jobs to stop unemployemnt below 7% ;I think people recognise failurein policy. When you then want a job bill it cements that failure.That isa big F..... deal ;Biden.
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Actually, the Clintons soured me on Government.
Bush Sr. and Jr. didn't help cure the sours, but they certainly didn't CAUSE it!
Obama has made it worse.
Biden is no help at all, either.
Pelosi could make cheddar cheese from fresh milk with no rennet added!
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:50 PM
 
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Vice President Joe Biden, in a visit to George W. Bush's hometown, said Friday that President Barack Obama's ability to sell his agenda to Americans has been hampered by the failures of his predecessor.

Speaking at two Dallas fundraisers, Biden said the Bush administration soured the American people on government and politics with its out-of-control spending, severe job losses and mishandling of two wars.

Biden says Obama's troubles rooted in failures of Bush years | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News
Wait, let me get this straight..

Obama cant sell is agenda to americans even though they proclaim they've been wildly successful by their own accounts? Hell, if this was Bushs fault, Obamas agenda should be a breeze to sell to the public because everyone was tired of "Bush" and looking for something different, so Biden now admitting Obama is incompetent on even getting his message across..
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:51 PM
 
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But Biden gets a pass...even though he held a vote for all 8 of those years?

This guy is a loose cannon. Unfortunately, liberals hang on his every word.
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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So Biden is basically saying the same thing that Obama and other Democrats have mentioned since last year.

It's basically "don't look at Obama and Congress right now, but keep your attention back in time"

One thing to ponder, weren't there a lot of Democrats in the House and Senate a few years ago?

Presently, the Bush years are so far in the past, and the deficit so greatly increased the past 10 months, that the hear and now is worth all the attention in the country.

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Old 03-27-2010, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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I remember Bush's first few years after Clinton and all I heard was "It's Clintons fault" Our economy tanked six years after Clinton left office and guys like Limbaugh and Hannity blamed Clinton. Let's face it, Bush got the republicans killed in '08 and voters decided all republicans were idiots like him, it was a mandate. Obama basically did nothing his first year, thats not Bush's fault, Was Dubya solely responsible for this countries economic collapse? Of course he wasn't. All that said, Obama has yet to prove he's the right man for the job.
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You know the debate is just going to have people complaining about people pointing at Bush for the problems the current administration faces, and that he was part of it. Then they will beat the dead horse of blaming Obama, "liberal policy" and current democrats for all the ills of the country for the last 30 years...while laying no blame to any Republican senator, president, or representative that were part of any of the administrations (including no blame to Bush at all).

It's a somewhat plausible start to an end that is completely delusional. Not only are they blaming one set of people, like they claim is what is wrong with the argument they are speaking against by not including any Republican in the problems they see in the current political leadership...but extended to the complete edge of insanity by including decades worth of debacles. Their solution is to elect the current Republican leadership in the current congress that is, by their own argument, part of the bad decision making they are screaming about. What was funny is the same people were shouting blame to Clinton for Bush's first term, but find no problem in the insanity of the argument (and some still do for 9/11 and the wars).

I really think it's going to take a great number of drugs and long hours of therapy for those who make those cognitive dissidence rationalizations about their views to become even somewhat adjusted to reality. Though, many won't do it.

It's just a same horse crap each year...everything good is their party, and everything bad is the other party. Just a more complex mental gymnastics to try and explain how "they" didn't screw up and it's all the fault of the other side, it doesn't matter if it's complete insane.

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Old 03-27-2010, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Vice President Joe Biden, in a visit to George W. Bush's hometown, said Friday that President Barack Obama's ability to sell his agenda to Americans has been hampered by the failures of his predecessor.

Speaking at two Dallas fundraisers, Biden said the Bush administration soured the American people on government and politics with its out-of-control spending, severe job losses and mishandling of two wars.

Biden says Obama's troubles rooted in failures of Bush years | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News
Old Joe "Foot in Mouth" will come back from the dead blaming Bush for his death. That is if he doesn't choke on his foot between now and tomorrow.
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Old 03-28-2010, 12:04 AM
 
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It couldn't possibly be because Americans don't want this legislation or the legislation is flawed?
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