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Old 03-29-2010, 05:46 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Let me get this straight. They made raids in three states to arrest a grand total of 3 or 7 people depending on which newspaper you read?

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"At least seven people, including some from Michigan, have been arrested in raids by a FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana as part of an investigation into an Adrian-based Christian militia group, a person familiar with the matter said. "


Gee, 3 or 7 not enough? Just how many arrests would it take to make a raid worthwhile? 10? 50? 100?

After all, 19 and the towers would still be standing.

How many acted with McVeigh?



Just how many threats do we need before taking action?
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:15 AM
 
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Yet another piece of evidence proving that Evangelicals are the radical Christian version of the Taliban. Again, there are normal Christians and then there are Evangelicals just like there are normal Muslims and Radical Muslims.
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:28 AM
 
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I would not call a pipe bomb a "military threat". Heck, we used to make them for fun as a kid and they can only do very limited damage.


Hell yeah, not only did we make pipe bombs as a kid, Daddy would make us practice shooting at these straw dummies with our AK47's, I sure never understood why daddy would always paint the dummies faces brown though, I guess that's the only paint he had. I also remember Daddy storing all of this funny looking gray colored clay in the basement. Daddy said never to touch it. It always had these weird electrical wires going through it. He said that we could stick that funny clay under someone's car if we were good. Boy growing up sure was fun! (end sarcasm)

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Old 03-29-2010, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Hell yeah, not only did we make pipe bombs as a kid, Daddy would make us practice shooting at these straw dummies with our AK47's, I sure never understood why daddy would always paint the dummies faces brown though, I guess that's the only paint he had. I also remember Daddy storing all of this funny looking gray colored clay in the basement. Daddy said never to touch it. It always had these weird electrical wires going through it. He said that we could stick that funny clay under someone's car if we were good. Boy growing up sure was fun!
Sounds like you had a racist progressive daddy.
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Let me get this straight. They made raids in three states to arrest a grand total of 3 or 7 people depending on which newspaper you read?

"The Associated Press reported that FBI spokesman Scott Wilson in Cleveland said agents arrested two people Saturday in northwest Ohio. A third arrest was made in Illinois on Sunday, a day after raids in northwest Indiana."

Nation & World | FBI arrests at least 3 in raids in Midwest | Seattle Times Newspaper


"At least seven people, including some from Michigan, have been arrested in raids by a FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana as part of an investigation into an Adrian-based Christian militia group, a person familiar with the matter said. "

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100328/METRO/3280313/Seven-arrested-in-FBI-raids-linked-to-Christian-militia-group=#ixzz0jYxZscP9

Aside from the crackerjack reporting by the media who couldn't state the charges or apparently get the total number of people arrested correct, let's, just for argument sake go with 7 people over 3 states. That's a raid? That's like 2 people or less in some of those states (2,2,3) (4,2,1). You go to a home and arrest a husband and wife for domestic violence because he threatened her and there's a weapon in the house is that a raid, too? Maybe he used "hate speech" against women?

Why are the charges such a big secret or is this one of those let's go arrest a bunch of people to build our images for the 2010 elections kind of thing?

Also, oooooooh, this group burned a United Nations flag. Where was the outrage from the press when all of the idiots were burning American flags in the street?
Raids often held to try to stop the hiding of or disposing of evidence. # of people is not important.
Those at the location may or may not be the subject of the raid, but
can be charged based on what is found.

Until they go to into court, there are no charges.

Aren't you one of the people who automatically convict anyone from Acorn or a union who are accused of anything, even when they haven't been charged?
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Raids often held to try to stop the hiding of or disposing of evidence. # of people is not important.
Those at the location may or may not be the subject of the raid, but
can be charged based on what is found.

Until they go to into court, there are no charges yet.

Aren't you one of the people who automatically convict anyone from Acorn or a union who are accused of anything, even when they haven't been charged (and in most cases are not)?
"convicting" ACORN only meant to strip them of funds through legislation or judicial methods, not to arrest ACORN members.
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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"convicting" ACORN only meant to strip them of funds through legislation or judicial methods, not to arrest ACORN members.
Judicial method would take the actual use of the courts.

The legislative method (in these cases) is still convicting without charges based on accusations.
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Judicial method would take the actual use of the courts.

The legislative method (in these cases) is still convicting without charges based on accusations.
No charges required. Court of public opinion darling. That wasn't a criminal matter involving fines or jail time.
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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These teabagger "'Christian" militia men are not only hurting their own cause, but they are dangerous. It's sounding like when Bill Clinton president....and you all remember the Oklahoma City bombing.

Glad top see the FBI is doing it's job and arresting these domestic terrorists..
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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No charges required. Court of public opinion darling. That wasn't a criminal matter involving fines or jail time.

Public opinion is only good for American Idol and Dancing with the Stars, not the governing of a country....

Glad the founding fathers didn't listen to the court of public opinion.........or we'd still have a queen or king.
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