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The most European country outside Europe is Argentina. lots of European blooded people there.
America is already a latin word. There is a true America (All the continent from Canada down to argentina) and there is Anglo-America, a country in central North America populated by English speakers who are not Anglo blooded, but a bunch of mestizos just like everyone else in the continent AMERICA.
THE U.S is something like Brazil, in demographics, but Brazilians speak Portuguese and US nationals speak English and Spanish.
All the American countries are different. The most european ones are Uruguay, Chile, Argentina, And Canada.
Hollywood is Fantasy, they hire a bunch of Aussies and Australians and give them the roles of "US nationals", then tourist come looking for a Pamela Anderson or a Hayden Christensen, but they end up finding an Oprah, or Adam Sandler.
Argentina is probably the most European country outside of Europe. Beautiful too.
I have no reason to believe that statisticians would distort census data. What's more likely is that your personal experiences are not reflected by the general population.
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No, actually, it is a veneer. Read writers who write at length about how Mexicans aspire to Spanishness but in many ways are not, or how the people in certain parts of the Caribbean and Colombia are just as indigenous or African as they are Spanish.
It's my own personal opinion that religion is the biggest factor determining identity. If you can get a group of people to worship your God you've got them. I'm not sure who these writers are and I'd be lying if I said I was interested in reading about the non-European culture lying under the veneer. I shouldn't have to read a book to find out who people are. I should be able to ask them just like the census takers did. I'm interested in finding out about people who honor their ancestors outright and properly..... by carrying on their traditions and inviting their spirits into their lives. The preferred ancestors of latinos are the white ones. Regardless of the reason that is the truth. So while they continue to celebrate Christopher Columbus I'll continue to see them for what they call themselves: white.
I have no reason to believe that statisticians would distort census data. What's more likely is that your personal experiences are not reflected by the general population.
Self-reporting doesn't always reflect reality. Therefore, data coming from self-reported sources is flawed intrinsically. I bet if you asked the population of Nazi-occupied lands during World War II how many of them were Jews, you'd probably get skewed data as well.
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It's my own personal opinion that religion is the biggest factor determining identity. If you can get a group of people to worship your God you've got them. I'm not sure who these writers are and I'd be lying if I said I was interested in reading about the non-European culture lying under the veneer.
Then you have absolutely nothing on which to base your opinion.
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I shouldn't have to read a book to find out who people are. I should be able to ask them just like the census takers did. I'm interested in finding out about people who honor their ancestors outright and properly..... by carrying on their traditions and inviting their spirits into their lives. The preferred ancestors of latinos are the white ones.
That in itself makes no sense. If you are preferrring one set of ancestors and acting ashamed of another set of ancestors, you are not honoring your ancestors outright and properly.....unless I'm not understanding something here..........
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Regardless of the reason that is the truth. So while they continue to celebrate Christopher Columbus I'll continue to see them for what they call themselves: white.
You are simply not opening your eyes to reality. Not all of us celebrate Columbus.
As I said, you get a skewed perspective. I know Cubans who look white who worship African deities. Fidel Castro happens to be one of them. A well-known black Cuban musician told me that though he was black and Castro was white in appearance - and the son of a Spanish immigrant - Castro was more of an African than the musician was.
Self-reporting doesn't always reflect reality. Therefore, data coming from self-reported sources is flawed intrinsically. I bet if you asked the population of Nazi-occupied lands during World War II how many of them were Jews, you'd probably get skewed data as well.
I can't imagine how you summoned the gall to compare voluntary latino immigrants to wartime Jews. I agree with you 100% that self-reporting doesn't always reflect reality for reasons we've discussed before. However latinos do not have any self-protection motivation for choosing their race when filling out a census form or speaking to a census worker. They are not under fear of losing their lives or any other duress.
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Then you have absolutely nothing on which to base your opinion.
You are not a Mexican. Because you have made a vague suggestion that I read some books about Mexicans and I have chosen not to take you up on your suggestion that makes me no less qualified to come to conclusions about latinos than you are. We have different sources. Yours are no more valid than mine and probably significantly less. Anyone can write a book but statistics are statistics and these are very simple statistics to interpret.
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That in itself makes no sense. If you are preferrring one set of ancestors and acting ashamed of another set of ancestors, you are not honoring your ancestors outright and properly.....unless I'm not understanding something here..........
African spirituality and Christianity are two vastly different religions. You can't fully immerse yourself in both. By choosing Christianity and other facets of their way of life people have made a clear choice of which ancestors to respect and have essentially cast aside the others. By calling themselves white they are being more honest about the choices they've made. Every culture is only one generation away from extinction. They chose which culture to demote to extinction. I am aware that there are latinos who follow African spiritualities as we have discussed these in a previous thread. However I am not speaking about outliers. Most latinos are Catholic and identify as Catholic. You seem to be focused on Cubans whereas I am speaking about all latinos in the U.S. Cubans make up a very small percentage of the overall population.
As far as Castro I'm not sure how he is relevant as I'm speaking solely of latinos who live in the U.S. However there is absolutely nothing Castro has done or could do to become African. Cuban musicians do not designate who is African.
I can't imagine how you summoned the gall to compare voluntary latino immigrants to wartime Jews.
Then save yourself the effort and don't.
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I agree with you 100% that self-reporting doesn't always reflect reality for reasons we've discussed before. However latinos do not have any self-protection motivation for choosing their race when filling out a census form or speaking to a census worker. They are not under fear of losing their lives or any other duress.
No........they're just under fear of being thought of as nonwhite.
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You are not a Mexican.
No. I'm a Cuban. Cuban American. I have been to Mexico many times. Have you? I speak the language. Do you?
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Because you have made a vague suggestion that I read some books about Mexicans and I have chosen not to take you up on your suggestion that makes me no less qualified to come to conclusions about latinos than you are. We have different sources. Yours are no more valid than mine and probably significantly less. Anyone can write a book but statistics are statistics and these are very simple statistics to interpret.
Your arrogance is astounding. I am an actual Latin person. You are a supposedly pure black African immigrant who has met a few Hispanic people here in America. But you know more about Latin America than I do. You never stop amazing me.
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African spirituality and Christianity are two vastly different religions. You can't fully immerse yourself in both.
Tell that to the millions of Latinos of all racial backgrounds who do.
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By choosing Christianity and other facets of their way of life people have made a clear choice of which ancestors to respect and have essentially cast aside the others. By calling themselves white they are being more honest about the choices they've made.
Someone who looks like me can hardly call themself white. No honesty there.
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Every culture is only one generation away from extinction. They chose which culture to demote to extinction.
I don't know what you consider to be extinct, much less demoted.
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As far as Castro I'm not sure how he is relevant as I'm speaking solely of latinos who live in the U.S. However there is absolutely nothing Castro has done or could do to become African. Cuban musicians do not designate who is African.
As much as you hate to hear it, neither do you. Castro is an unabashed follower of African religion, and so are millions of Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and South Americans in this country.
It really is an annoying term. I get tired of explaining to Americans why I have a Spanish surname and don't "look Mexican". Mexican is not a race it's a nationality, Hispanic is not a race it's an ethnicity/culture, Cuban is not a language...well it is to people like Herman Cain.
As much as you hate to hear it, neither do you. Castro is an unabashed follower of African religion, and so are millions of Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and South Americans in this country.
I could convert and become an unabashed follower of Buddhism but that wouldn't make me Cambodian. Your logical reasoning skills are about as weak as your racial classifications.
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