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What is wrong with some of the people posting on this thread? Is stupidity that rampant? Why don't you get the point? A five year old would understand the OP. The nature if the healthcare bill is not the issue! The issue is that the Republicans agenda was to undermine any healthcare reform since Clinton years. They would not have accepted any reform even if it was stellar in every aspect. Can't you comprehend the underlying message of the article or are you just pretending to have way below average reading comprehension reading skills?
The next 100 days are thus critical. For opponents of the plan, the risk is that the president will recapture the high ground on health care, leaving them merely to complain about flawed financing and cumbersome bureaucracy. But the opportunity also exists to wrench the debate from the president by redefining both what is at stake and how reform should proceed.
Kristol was speaking about Clinton, BTW.
How to Oppose the Health Plan—and Why
On Principle, v2n1
January 1994
by: William Kristol
WITH SO MUCH ON THE LINE.... In 1993, Bill Kristol privately advised congressional Republicans to do whatever it took to "kill" the Clinton health care reform initiative. It wasn't that the policy proposal was a bad idea; it was that passage would help the Democratic Party for years to come.TheGOP, he said, for the sake of its own future, couldn't compromise or negotiate with the majority.
Memo to Dems: the GOP Wants Health Reform to Fail | PEEK | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141428/memo_to_dems:_the_gop_wants_health_reform_to_fail/ - broken link)
Last edited by sickofnyc; 03-30-2010 at 10:19 AM..
What is wrong with some of the people posting on this thread? Is stupidity that rampant? Why don't you get the point? A five year old would understand the OP. The nature if the healthcare bill is not the issue! The issue is that the Republicans agenda was to indermine any healthcare reform since Clinton years. They would not have accepted any reform even if it was stellar in every aspect. Can't you comprehend the underlying message of the article or are you just pretending to have way below average reading comprehension reading skills?
The next 100 days are thus critical. For opponents of the plan, the risk is that the president will recapture the high ground on health care, leaving them merely to complain about flawed financing and cumbersome bureaucracy. But the opportunity also exists to wrench the debate from the president by redefining both what is at stake and how reform should proceed.
Kristol was speaking about Clinton, BTW.
How to Oppose the Health Plan—and Why
On Principle, v2n1
January 1994
by: William Kristol
WITH SO MUCH ON THE LINE.... In 1993, Bill Kristol privately advised congressional Republicans to do whatever it took to "kill" the Clinton health care reform initiative. It wasn't that the policy proposal was a bad idea; it was that passage would help the Democratic Party for years to come.TheGOP, he said, for the sake of its own future, couldn't compromise or negotiate with the majority.
Memo to Dems: the GOP Wants Health Reform to Fail | PEEK | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141428/memo_to_dems:_the_gop_wants_health_reform_to_fail/ - broken link)
They, just as the Repubs in Congress, know that is the fact, but will not acknowledge that in public.
Democrats don't fight for the interests of their sponsors?
Not nearly as effectively. Corporate interests effectively own the government. And the supreme court recently affirmed this ownership and reinforced corporate influence in our "free" election process.
Quote:
Can you say Union?
Can you understand simple statistics?
If so, google "union membership" and get back to me with the trend over the past 30 years or so.
What is wrong with some of the people posting on this thread? Is stupidity that rampant? Why don't you get the point? A five year old would understand the OP. The nature if the healthcare bill is not the issue! The issue is that the Republicans agenda was to undermine any healthcare reform since Clinton years. They would not have accepted any reform even if it was stellar in every aspect. Can't you comprehend the underlying message of the article or are you just pretending to have way below average reading comprehension reading skills?
The next 100 days are thus critical. For opponents of the plan, the risk is that the president will recapture the high ground on health care, leaving them merely to complain about flawed financing and cumbersome bureaucracy. But the opportunity also exists to wrench the debate from the president by redefining both what is at stake and how reform should proceed.
Kristol was speaking about Clinton, BTW.
How to Oppose the Health Plan—and Why
On Principle, v2n1
January 1994
by: William Kristol
WITH SO MUCH ON THE LINE.... In 1993, Bill Kristol privately advised congressional Republicans to do whatever it took to "kill" the Clinton health care reform initiative. It wasn't that the policy proposal was a bad idea; it was that passage would help the Democratic Party for years to come.TheGOP, he said, for the sake of its own future, couldn't compromise or negotiate with the majority.
Memo to Dems: the GOP Wants Health Reform to Fail | PEEK | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141428/memo_to_dems:_the_gop_wants_health_reform_to_fail/ - broken link)
What is wrong with some of the people posting on this thread? Is stupidity that rampant? Why don't you get the point? A five year old would understand the OP. The nature if the healthcare bill is not the issue! The issue is that the Republicans agenda was to undermine any healthcare reform since Clinton years. They would not have accepted any reform even if it was stellar in every aspect. Can't you comprehend the underlying message of the article or are you just pretending to have way below average reading comprehension reading skills?
The next 100 days are thus critical. For opponents of the plan, the risk is that the president will recapture the high ground on health care, leaving them merely to complain about flawed financing and cumbersome bureaucracy. But the opportunity also exists to wrench the debate from the president by redefining both what is at stake and how reform should proceed.
Kristol was speaking about Clinton, BTW.
How to Oppose the Health Plan—and Why
On Principle, v2n1
January 1994
by: William Kristol
WITH SO MUCH ON THE LINE.... In 1993, Bill Kristol privately advised congressional Republicans to do whatever it took to "kill" the Clinton health care reform initiative. It wasn't that the policy proposal was a bad idea; it was that passage would help the Democratic Party for years to come.TheGOP, he said, for the sake of its own future, couldn't compromise or negotiate with the majority.
Memo to Dems: the GOP Wants Health Reform to Fail | PEEK | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141428/memo_to_dems:_the_gop_wants_health_reform_to_fail/ - broken link)
This is just wrong! McCain and some other Republicans did give some suggestions for health care reform, back then as they did this time. The dems dismissed it (both times), because they said health care should be controlled by the gov.....or something to that effect.
The main difference here is the Dems are all for more gov control over our lives and the Republicans say this should not be controlled by gov. Gov can help, but they should not have total control.
"You just couldn't resist the name calling could you?" Someone who doesn't think or vote like you, "How dare they". That's ok, seems like most dems are that way, at least around. I think it makes them feel better some how.
You are absolutely correct. All, save for a precious few, fight for the interests of their sponsors, Repub and Dem. If you think the only sponsors of Dems are Unions, you are way off.
I never said that, They are one of the prominent sponsors though....
This is just wrong! McCain and some other Republicans did give some suggestions for health care reform, back then as they did this time. The dems dismissed it (both times), because they said health care should be controlled by the gov.....or something to that effect.
The main difference here is the Dems are all for more gov control over our lives and the Republicans say this should not be controlled by gov. Gov can help, but they should not have total control.
"You just couldn't resist the name calling could you?" Someone who doesn't think or vote like you, "How dare they". That's ok, seems like most dems are that way, at least around. I think it makes them feel better some how.
The GOP did come up with some suggestions, some of which were incorporated into the bill. They did come up with a "plan" of their own, something which would cover only 3 million more people.....
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