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Old 03-30-2010, 10:17 AM
 
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The only thing we were number one at was amount per capita spent. Hell, Costa Rica outranked us. No wonder that is where Rush if running off to.

So how can all of those other countries rank so high and still be ecomonically strong? Look at France, top ranked single payer government system and the 5th highest GDP. Japan second highest GDP and 10th best healthcare system (government run no less).

Why can they do it any we cant?

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Don't expect responses to this thread from those against UHC. Those against UHC prefer to hear horror (invented) stories about other nations.
The reason that America did not want the Status Quo to change is because greed reigns supreme.
I thought there was no such thing as American Exceptualism? Why does it matter if we're #37 on the list if the United States was not pre-destined to out-achieve any other nation? Using liberals' own theory, we're merely another nation on this planet like Somalia or Antigua.

So why do you care where we fall on the list?
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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About the cancer survival rates in the US. Are those statistics compiled of insured Americans with cancer? Or the overall population with cancer?
Anyone without insurance having cancer (or any other health ailment) in the US can forget about treatment.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:32 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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About the cancer survival rates in the US. Are those statistics compiled of insured Americans with cancer? Or the overall population with cancer?
Anyone without insurance having cancer (or any other health ailment) in the US can forget about treatment.
According to the U.S. National Cancer Institute and the International Agency for Research on Cancer, those cancer survival rates are per diagnosis.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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About the cancer survival rates in the US. Are those statistics compiled of insured Americans with cancer? Or the overall population with cancer?
Anyone without insurance having cancer (or any other health ailment) in the US can forget about treatment.
how about the cancer causers

ddt, chlododane, creosote all still legal in france...the supposed #1......go figure that
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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I thought there was no such thing as American Exceptualism? Why does it matter if we're #37 on the list if the United States was not pre-destined to out-achieve any other nation? Using liberals' own theory, we're merely another nation on this planet like Somalia or Antigua.

So why do you care where we fall on the list?
This all depends on what you (and patriotic Americans) value.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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Who produces that list ?
The WHO.
Who is that WHO..?

A bunch of commie ( communists & socialists) political appointees, who pose as..."scientists",like the GW cheaters,who twist the numbers & the truth the way they like it...

So,for us,Americans & every non-commie, it goes...

HEY HEY,HO HO

F* CK THE W-H-O...

Go to #1 France,
or #2 Italy
& wait for the commie beardo "doctor",certified by communist "doctors" to end his...strike or...demonstration against the "USA imperialism in Iraq " & then,to do heart surgery to u...
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Clermont Fl
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Originally Posted by Visvaldis View Post
Don't expect responses to this thread from those against UHC. Those against UHC prefer to hear horror (invented) stories about other nations.
The reason that America did not want the Status Quo to change is because greed reigns supreme.
This has nothing to do with UHC at all as a matter of fact adding 30 million people without an increase in doctors will make it worse. If you add in that the government is in the equation that makes it even worse.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Although I am pro-UHC, that ranking does not look too solid to me. Portugal is ranked 13 places better than Germany, that is a joke.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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Jesus,I just noticed it...

They put ...Greece at #14...

With the commie butchers extortionists of the greek "NHS" who demand bribes ( greek slang : fakelaki = "little envelope") to do an operation,otherwise u wait for 4 months...

Where butchers ( "surgeons") divide 1 operation in... 2 operations ,so as to get double bribe...

Where the "doctors " keep the mafia's omerta ( "law of silence ") & noone testifies in court against another doctor...Almost all malpractice cases are dismissed...

Where dishes are washed without soap,just hot water...

When bedsheets are changed when...the patient leaves the hospital room ( either heading home or downstairs to the morgue...).

I wonder why USA doesn't leave that organisation of commie antiamer freaks ...

who should be appropriately named... WHOres...
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The shortening of life spans in the U.S. is due to fatal injuries (accidents and homicides), not health care. When fatal injuries are filtered out, Americans have the longest life span:

"...once fatal injuries are taken into account, U.S. "natural" life expectancy from birth ranks first among the richest nations of the world."
Natural Life Expectancy in the United States

Which means the U.S. outranks Sweden and all other European countries in non-fatal injury life expectancy, even when disease and illnesses are included in the life expectancy calculations.

Also, our current health care system delivers the highest cancer survival rates:

Doesn't prove your point at all. Hint - not everybody has cancer. Next.

Oh, and...

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The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.
Same with the poster above. Stop being delusional.
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