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And you are the expert? I find it hard to believe that normal white kids are bringing knives and guns to school in record amounts these days.... Just really doubt it
Cant blame some HS kid if they bullied someone, and then they killed themselves.
Guy should be a man and fist fight them or something. Not just commit suicide cause some guy calls you a name. Sticks and stones can break your bones, but words cant hurt you. what happened to that?
Are you appointing yourself the spokesman for bullies?
one example from 15 years ago does not set a precedent....
OK - Here's another one for you. This one hit close to MY HOME. 12 miles to be exact. I am friends with one of the responding officers at this scene. It was very ugly. He even had "suicide bullets" taped to his chest for the moment of truth once he had wasted all of his ammo. He knew he was going to die. But he didn't.
Cant blame some HS kid if they bullied someone, and then they killed themselves.
Guy should be a man and fist fight them or something. Not just commit suicide cause some guy calls you a name. Sticks and stones can break your bones, but words cant hurt you. what happened to that?
Usually bullies are cowards. They select a much weaker opponent. The person targeted often is shy, withdrawn and has low self-esteem. This makes it easy for the bully to continue the cycle.
While it might seem logical to you that defending oneself would break the cycle, you are missing the point that a weaker, shy, person with no self-confidence is usually NOT CAPABLE of fighting back.
I will acknowledge that sometimes fighting works. In school I carried a switchblade, almost killed another student in response to an attack, and soon everyone knew I was "crazy" and they left me alone. In contrast, my friend fought back, but was gang attacked and stomped to death. While self-defense is a necessary evil, it is preferable to try to use the school system first to try to stop bullying.
Cant blame some HS kid if they bullied someone, and then they killed themselves.
Guy should be a man and fist fight them or something. Not just commit suicide cause some guy calls you a name. Sticks and stones can break your bones, but words cant hurt you. what happened to that?
They took it personal and they shouldn't have done that. The nerve of some people to have feelings. shame on them. they should be tough as nails. every one else is.
Last edited by Ellis Bell; 04-02-2010 at 12:51 AM..
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People respect people who have principle and will fight. Even if you get your ass kicked, if you will fight someone, they would definitely leave you alone.
Fighting makes trouble and if they know some guy is willing to fight them, they will just move on
"if you will fight someone, they would definitely leave you alone"
That's not true, and if you think so you probably grew up in a pretty tame neighborhood. Where I went to school, kids who fought back were liable to get their faces stomped by 3 or 4 kids.
This isn't some fantasyland where bullies have personal codes of honor and will back down from kids who show some pluck & courage. Bullying is a problem, and to place the blame on the people victimized (how funny that you admitted that when you made this post you weren't even familiar with the story) is despicable and reeks of ignorance. You're wrong, just give it up.
Cant blame some HS kid if they bullied someone, and then they killed themselves.
Guy should be a man and fist fight them or something. Not just commit suicide cause some guy calls you a name. Sticks and stones can break your bones, but words cant hurt you. what happened to that?
What a compassion human being you are, you give me hope for mankind.
Usually bullies are cowards. They select a much weaker opponent. The person targeted often is shy, withdrawn and has low self-esteem. This makes it easy for the bully to continue the cycle.
While it might seem logical to you that defending oneself would break the cycle, you are missing the point that a weaker, shy, person with no self-confidence is usually NOT CAPABLE of fighting back.
I will acknowledge that sometimes fighting works. In school I carried a switchblade, almost killed another student in response to an attack, and soon everyone knew I was "crazy" and they left me alone. In contrast, my friend fought back, but was gang attacked and stomped to death. While self-defense is a necessary evil, it is preferable to try to use the school system first to try to stop bullying.
Bingo... Its already been beat out of them.
Take a dog. Any breed will do. But we will use a big bad ass breed like a Rottwieler. As a young dog its master beats it humiliates it torments it.
You end up with an adult dog with poor bladder control anytime someone looks at it.
Humans are no different. What does make us different is the ability to rise above our base instincts. We should fight for the weaker people who can't fight for themselves. Its too bad that most people are content to be spectators. Oh they might talk after the fact about how wrong it was but in reality many people enjoy watching a so called geek get humiliated.
I witnessed a group of bulleys tormenting a short fat boy. They took it to a level I had not seen in a long time. First the pushing then the cuffing then right into a good beat down. I was not the only adult within earshot, but I was the only adult to jump in. They had this poor kid on the ground screaming . The ever popular wedgy that tears the underpants right off the kid. Kicking him. So someone please tell me how this boy was supposed to fight back against 4 bigger kids? I ended up giving him a ride home. The bullies ran when I yelled at them, of course.
This is the reality for many kids. I was once one of them so I know first hand what its like. Everyday until I was in 10th grade was a day like the Boy I helped. There is seldom a rescue, I even had teachers laughing when it happened.
Its a damn shame so many think this is all part of growing up.
People respect people who have principle and will fight. Even if you get your ass kicked, if you will fight someone, they would definitely leave you alone.
Fighting makes trouble and if they know some guy is willing to fight them, they will just move on
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