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Old 04-01-2010, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Where is the actual cost associated with not getting the forms back? Per the article, they only got 73% last time and the world didn't end. Obvious question, if the census is really essential to know how many people live where, how do they know they only received 73% of them back? And if they do know that they have 73% (or whatever number) the math to project to 100% isn't rocket science.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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First we get a letter in the mail saying the census form is coming!

Then we get the form. We filled it out and sent it back the next day.

Today we get a reminder to fill out the census form and send it in. It seems to me it wasn't even due back until the middle or end of the month.

Do these idiots really have this such little respect for the taxpayer that they feel the need to waste money this way? After seeing what a complete cluster this is...I'm really not getting a warm, fuzzy feeling about the same people inserting themselves deeper into health care.
This might be really hard to believe, but given the above, maybe not.
Some really ignorant people think the Census is a huge government conspiracy. or immigrants don't exactly know what it is, etc.

Btw, they dod this regardless of who's president.

in order for a state to receive proper funding and representation everyone needs to fill it out.

If ignorance didn't exist, and everyone was like, "hey cool, the Census lets do out civic duty" then they wouldn't need to spend more than the paper its worth to print on.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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What kind of morons are conducting the census???
The government.

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Old 04-01-2010, 11:35 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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This might be really hard to believe, but given the above, maybe not.
Some really ignorant people think the Census is a huge government conspiracy. or immigrants don't exactly know what it is, etc.

Btw, they dod this regardless of who's president.

in order for a state to receive proper funding and representation everyone needs to fill it out.

If ignorance didn't exist, and everyone was like, "hey cool, the Census lets do out civic duty" then they wouldn't need to spend more than the paper its worth to print on.
I don't know, isn't it more ignorant to pay for these "welfare government jobs" to give them information that their agencies already have?
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Where is the actual cost associated with not getting the forms back? Per the article, they only got 73% last time and the world didn't end. Obvious question, if the census is really essential to know how many people live where, how do they know they only received 73% of them back? And if they do know that they have 73% (or whatever number) the math to project to 100% isn't rocket science.
They send people door to door to collect the census information from the people who did not send the forms back. That is what they did with the 27% that did not respond back in 2000, and its something that has been going on for longer than any of us have been alive.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:49 PM
 
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Since the census makes no effort to filter out illegals, the results aren't even valid for representative apportionment.
That's a very good point.

How long do you think it will be before a lawsuit will be filed and this "census" is thrown out?
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Old 04-02-2010, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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That's a very good point.

How long do you think it will be before a lawsuit will be filed and this "census" is thrown out?
Considering its been around since 1790 I would say zero.
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Old 04-02-2010, 12:15 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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First, how do you figure that? Just what actual cost is there if they are not all returned? Apportionment is off, but that in and of itself isn't a cost.

Lets say they send out 150 million reminders each time at $1 each for printing and shipping. Since they have sent out 2 now that alone is $300 million, wasted. Now how many more times are they going to do this? Even if they just filtered out the ones already sent back in, how much would this have saved?
Just think how much MORE money they could have saved if they would have had an online version to fill out, and a counter of which households filled the census out online, so they wouldn't have to mail forms to those houses.

Not to mention the time saved by doing it online.
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Old 04-02-2010, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Uh, couldn't they just have the brownshirts er, the IRS, turn over the information that they already have on everyone? Seems like some data entry people could figure this stuff out for far less than we waste on this nonsense.

Throw in a couple statisticians and next thing you know they're done.


Brilliant!
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Old 04-02-2010, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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In my area there are various con artists sending out census forms which look almost the same. The difference is they ask the ssn. Some ask other info which the real forms never ask. Thus those people who filled out the bogus form got their identity stolen. Lots of publicity stressing that kind of personal info will not be asked.

So beware but especially if its not the government. I sure hope the OP didn't fill out a bogus form and thats why the postcard arrived.
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