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So you think it is right that only 3 out of 10 housholds are independent of government welfare and not only provide fore themselves but for those who are producing nothing?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755
Please, if Europe is what you want, go there and stay.
A higher tax rate on the rich helps with the distribution of wealth. More wealth on the bottom end = less dependance on others. Less welfare, I'm talking about a 1950's tax structure.
Yeah I don't get it either. Maybe it means the possibility that you can be a billionaire instead of a millionaire because of the continuous fight against taxes and social safety nets.
A higher tax rate on the rich helps with the distribution of wealth. More wealth on the bottom end = less dependance on others. Less welfare, I'm talking about a 1950's tax structure.
Debateable.
A higher tax rate, just means there would be more money going into shelters/offshore accounts etc.
I agree that the distribution needs to shift and that too much is concentrated in the top.
Perhaps tax those that don't pay a liveable wage to fund welfare.
A higher tax rate, just means there would be more money going into shelters/offshore accounts etc.
I agree that the distribution needs to shift and that too much is concentrated in the top.
Perhaps tax those that don't pay a liveable wage to fund welfare.
What the higher tax rate does is it requires them to hide their money. The hiding of it prevents them for loaning it out instead of paying wages. That is an over simplification but has truth in it. Bumping minimum wage and a high tax on the top end. Plus dumping a lot of money into the consumer end of the economy in the form of cash with out the associated debt. (Print the money and give it away) We need to have an international minimum wage. We can ask nicely that they pay their workers more and if they don't then we can use the T word to back up the request.
A higher tax rate on the rich helps with the distribution of wealth. More wealth on the bottom end = less dependance on others. Less welfare, I'm talking about a 1950's tax structure.
Wrong. You create dependence through the forced redistribution of wealth. It is a hand-out, not a hand-up.
I'm far from rich and I don't want the government looking out for me. Give me freedom over false promises of protection.
I'll take the freedom too. I don't know why so many liberals want us to be like Europe. I mean any right the government gives, they can take away.
If they give you the right to healthcare, they can take it away.
If they give you the right to education, they can easily take it away.
If they give you the right to a job, they can take it away.
For goodness sakes, if you want to do something in the name of social justice, give to a local church or charity that helps the poor on a regular basis. Maybe, give to a food bank for crying out loud.
I don't know why the liberals want us to keep running up the deficit to help those who refuse to help themselves. I lived in a bad neighborhood, there were many around me receiving welfare checks for doing nothing other than existing. The U.S. is endanger of losing its triple A credit rating, yet we want more freebies from the government that they can't pay for.
I don't know why people want to see the high unemployment rates of Europe here in the U.S. Government regulations lead to excessive costs and future layoffs.
I don't know why people want to pay 20% VAT in the name of more government freebies. Let's say you are eyeing a new sweater that costs $20.
That new sweater will cost $24, not including state sales taxes.
I don't know why people want the U.S. to have the highest cost of living in the world, as many European cities do.
If you want us to move to the European way, why don't you just move already?
"Should America bid farewell to exceptional freedom HELL NO!
and follow the retreat to European social welfare paternalism ... HELL NO!
or should we make a new start, [to return]
in the faith that boundless opportunities belong
to the workers, [the taxpaying]
the builders,
the industrious,
and the free?"
- Rep. Paul Ryan
I say let's make a new start and get back to the basics that Our Country was founded on, the same Country that which I and many others took a Solemn Oath to defend Our Constitution against enemies both Foreign and Domestic! I know enough, that Government control is NOT FREEDOM and is inherently UN-CONSTITUTIONAL and is not what the Founding Father's envisioned and what I swore an OATH to!
"We are challenged to answer again the momentous questions our Founders raised when they launched mankind's noblest experiment in human freedom.
They made a fundamental choice and changed history for the better.
Now it's our high calling to make that choice:
between managed scarcity,
or solid growth ...
between living in dependency on government handouts,
or taking responsibility for our lives ...
between confiscating the earnings of some and spreading them around,
or securing everyone's right to the rewards of their work ...
between bureaucratic central government,
or self-government ...
between the European social welfare state
or the American idea of free market democracy." - Rep. Paul Ryan
And no damn, stalin-come-lately-Alinsky-following-street-agitator President
or Politburo-style Congress
or Socialist Senate
or Supreme Court
is going to LIE to me and tell me that this (exceptional freedom) is the way we are being governed now,
that it is Constitutional,
or that this is what the Founding Father's bequeathed and left as their Legacy to U.S.!
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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So you think it is right that only 3 out of 10 housholds are independent of government welfare and not only provide fore themselves but for those who are producing nothing?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755
Please, if Europe is what you want, go there and stay.
I did not say people should not produce anything. Of course people should work. But if something bad happens and you get ill or get hurt and cannot work, you should not be thrown under the bus either.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I'm far from rich and I don't want the government looking out for me. Give me freedom over false promises of protection.
It is the government's JOB to look out for you- and all of us.
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Quoting Rep.Paul Ryan (the man ObaMao fears!)
