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Old 04-05-2010, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I dunno, depends on how easy it is to send a fetus to social services so they can live a life without abusive parents.

There is no chemical dependence as there is with a fetus and the mother.

As I stated, far more complicated of an issue than you are willing to give it credit for.
Well, it could survive in an incubator.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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You don't like pro-choice it's kind of tough chit. It isn't going to change.
Neither will rape and murder, should I say "tough chit" to the victims or families of those?

Care to note your hypocrisy? At least a rape victim or a murder victim has a chance to escape, unlike a fetus. But you don't care, because it's ALL ABOUT YOU.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The fetus is reliant on the mother.

If the mother went on a hunger strike and the fetus died, miscarried or something due to this, should the mother be tried for murder?

What about drinking/smoking while pregnant? Should that be illegal since we're assuming the fetus is a separate entity?

You are posing a very complicated question as clear cut and simple.
Utah has ruled on this very scenario. Miscarriage of any kind in Utah is now illegal if it can be argued that the mother didn't want the child.


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Old 04-05-2010, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Yawn...... Why is it that the same people who are anti-choice are also anti-universal health care? Quite ironic imho.
Not anti choice. Anti ONE choice. Abortion. The other choices, like not having sex, using birth control and adoption are just fine. Why do you insist on twisting this and saying we're anti choice when it's only one choice we find objectionable and that is the one that murders one human being for the convenience of another.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:34 PM
 
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Neither will rape and murder, should I say "tough chit" to the victims or families of those?

Care to note your hypocrisy? At least a rape victim or a murder victim has a chance to escape, unlike a fetus. But you don't care, because it's ALL ABOUT YOU.
Life is tough. It's tougher when you're a loser lobbying for pro-life.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Utah has ruled on this very scenario. Miscarriage of any kind in Utah is now illegal if it can be argued that the mother didn't want the child.


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And the consequences?

Where I live, it's technically to be drunk even in a bar. Do you think it's enforced or the penalty is very severe?
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Not anti choice. Anti ONE choice. Abortion. The other choices, like not having sex, using birth control and adoption are just fine. Why do you insist on twisting this and saying we're anti choice when it's only one choice we find objectionable and that is the one that murders one human being for the convenience of another.
they don't care, about anything, except what they think/want. You are against their agenda, meaning abortion for birth control purposes, hence you have no opinion worth listening to, even though their opinion results in death, and yours does not. They simply don't care. Pro-abortion people are sociopaths. The thing is, how did sociopaths get so much power?It shows that something is VERY wrong with society.

These people cannot even contemplate that it's wrong to kill your own child, and for reasons such as convenience.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I'm not the one who thinks I'm entitled to have other people pay to cover the expenses of me killing my own child.
So, this is really the crux of the argument for you and other conservatives. You don't give a rat's ass about rights of the unborn, etc. You just think every one of the 50 million abortions performed since RvW, was done with the tax dollars of hard working Americans like yourself. Get over yourself. The vast majority of abortions are done on women who prefer to pay cash for the procedure because they don't want anyone to know! Are millions of abortions nevertheless paid for with public monies? Absolutely. Millions of breast reductions, penile implants, boatloads of Prozac, Viagra and a fair number of "Handicapped" parking stickers for able bodied people. On balance... ... we are better off with Roe versus Wade than without.

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Old 04-05-2010, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Life is tough. It's tougher when you're a loser lobbying for pro-life.
At least I don't think it's a fundamental right to kill my own offspring. And because you started the personal attacks, can you explain to us, everyone else, what being a sociopath is like? What's it like to not think it's bad or wrong to kill your own child?See, I hav ea conscience, so it's unfathomable for me to contemplate your mind, so this would be a learning experience for me.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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I'm not the one who thinks I'm entitled to have other people pay to cover the expenses of me killing my own child.
No one is telling you to kill your own child.
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