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Old 04-06-2010, 02:05 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I don't drink the stuff.

but what say you Pepsi heads?
Maybe its a good time to quit the soda habit as it isn't good for me.
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Old 04-06-2010, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Hawaii
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This will include Gatorade, Capri Sun and the like.

I guess "soda" tax is a little misleading (imagine that).

Now understand; they aren't done attaching everything that can be attacked (I mean taxed) under this coming legislation.

Soda Tax Weighed to Pay for Health Care - WSJ.com

And it begins...
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Old 04-06-2010, 02:28 AM
 
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Its not about generating tax revenue, its mostly about making the cost of a bottle soda reflect its true cost to society.

Less soda consumption is a good thing and will have positive (cost saving) benefits on our healthcare system.
Well we need to raise the tax on alcohol by 500% then.Now about a fat txa also. Surely a high blood sugar fine would be more efficent;if its not tax dollars they are after. Hamburger or saturated fat tax anyone?
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:13 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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This will include Gatorade, Capri Sun and the like.

I guess "soda" tax is a little misleading (imagine that).

Now understand; they aren't done attaching everything that can be attacked (I mean taxed) under this coming legislation.

Soda Tax Weighed to Pay for Health Care - WSJ.com

And it begins...
Great.

So they want us to little by little stop ingesting a NATURAL substance, in favor of one that has questionable ties to cancer?! How in the hell is that going to lower health care prices, when a mass outbreak of kidney cancer hits the country!?

See, told you guys; give 'em an inch, they take the whole damn street!
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:16 AM
 
Location: PA
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Won't affect those who drink soda, but where do you draw the line. What's next, a special tax on items with over 200 calories?

Hmmmm you probably have a point :-)
They will soon have a fast food tax after all we want you healthy to drive down the costs and or pay for the costs of your government run healthcare.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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If I drink soda, I usually make my own. sodastream is some good stuff, but you don't save any money, but if you want to stick it to the nanny state, I would recommend it.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:23 AM
 
Location: PA
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I don't drink the stuff.

but what say you Pepsi heads?

A tax on soda is like a tax on tea.
You figure it out.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:51 AM
 
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As long as health care costs are shared collectively in the form of insurance premiums (as they are in our system which is private) then individual behavior that imposes high burdens on that system should be discouraged. A soda tax is not the same as an outright ban on soda. The government isn't telling you what you can and can't do. You still have free choice..you are free to drink as much soda as you want. However, when you're morbidly obese, the revenues generated from said consumption will make you that much less of a strain on our system.

But I'm sure you'd much rather stick your head in the sand and pray to the God of untethered capitalism that the mystical powers of the free market will magically solve this problem in matter that doesn't involve increasing premiums across the board (even for those who decide to live healthy lifestyles)..which is something it has managed to fail spectacularly at.
WOW ... I thought you were dead, Karl? But apparently, here you are with your filthy communist propaganda in all it's glory, and with all it's deceptive little catch phrases "...Shared collectively" "...individual behaviors that imposes high burdens" ... "untethered capitalism". Communist scum!

The fallacies in this nonsensical pile of bovine excrement is beyond belief.

1) Sugar is not causing obesity. Artificial sweeteners (pharmaceutically manufactured poison) and the "almost as bad" High Fructose Corn Syrup ... which is present in the majority of off-the-shelf products ... with emphasis in items for consumption by children is causing the vast percentage of obesity, plus even more deleterious health effects. And this wonderful, caring government (FDA) paved the way for it's inclusion in our food supplies, against their own scientist's strenuous objections. With some European countries already imposing a total ban on the use of this poison "aspartame", we here in the US think a little additional tax on it will make us more healthy.

2) Given that prescription medications taken as directed kill more people each year than all of the illegal drugs combined ... and cause a host of other health issues for those that they don't kill in the form of "side effects" which are often greater than the malady for which the drug was prescribed to treat. The solution: more prescription medications to treat the side effects. You see no effort to "change" that in the Healthcare Reform.

3) That death through medical mistakes (750,000 annually, according to figures documented in the book "Death By Medicine") is the 3rd leading cause of death after 1-Heart Disease, 2-Cancer in the United States, one would think that THIS might be a topic of "Healthcare Reform" debate ... NOPE. We're just concerned about who's gonna pay $$$ for this.

No, you are a communist, spreading lies ... perhaps even unwittingly ... as many of your "liberal communist" cohorts don't have the common sense to get in out of the rain.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:59 AM
 
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The coffee tax is next....
Coffee may be on the radar (because EVERYTHING IS), but what is next is "air".

The old joke has always been ... "if they could figure out a way to tax the air you breath, they'd tax that too". Well, thanks to the liberal numbskulls who believe every fairytale presented to them so long as it is packaged with socialist/communist controls to fix it ... global warming, and the CO2 fraud IS NEXT IN LINE for the "Obamanation". That's right .. Carbon Taxes will literally tax the air you breath.

And it's GOOD .... we must save the earth by giving Al Gore and his criminal cronies and the banks Billions. That'l cool things down nicely.
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