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Old 04-06-2010, 03:13 AM
 
Location: Europe
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So what our President (I find it more painful daily to call him that) as told all of the nations on Earth is:

Don't worry about us destroying you if you want to attack us, as long as you don't attack us with nukes.

There is a reason our policy was set up to consider nuclear response to any attacks with weapons of mass destruction, it reminded everyone that if you messed with us we could and would knock your butts back to the stone age in response, and now he takes even this off of the table?!?
That’s the type of attitude which is wrong with the whole Nuclear weapons issue. The United States, Russia & China and to a lesser degree France, the U.K., Israel, India, Pakistan and perhaps North Korea of this world. These countries hold nuclear weapons as deterrents to others. Now what happens in a nuclear war, you lot fire on one another like spoilt brats, and all us citizens of non-nuclear nations (often neutral non militarisitc) die alongside you, thanks for being so bloody selfish.
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Old 04-06-2010, 04:06 AM
 
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well if we don't use nuclear weapons, that means that conservative may have to go and fight one of their wars of choice.
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:19 AM
 
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You may have revealed the "plan" and will need to have your 1st Amendment Right.......quietly removed now.

Scary things ARE going on behind closed doors.
This admin. has already shown us that.
Rather than vaguely suggesting hyperbolic conspiracies, would you mind providing evidence for you assertions?

So far as I can tell, Obama's simply governing as a slight-left-of-center president, no different than any Democrat before him, and proving to be quite successful.

All the evidence points to our nation in full economic recovery, building infrastructure and global relationships to compete in a global 21st century in which no one nation controls the world (perhaps the reason for his stance on nuclear weapons?). And yes, this would include ensuring residents are able to have access to health insurance.

So... cite your sources if you're going to delve into the realm of conspiracy and let's see what you come up with.
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:17 AM
 
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"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far". Theodore Roosevelt

How far can you go without the stick?
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:22 AM
 
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Nuclear weapons are a deterrent and have saved how many millions of lives? How many wars and destruction of cities? Obama is a naive, foolish man but fortunately I have faith that our joint chiefs of staff would waste little time in forcing him to take the right course of action in the event of a military emergency.
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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"For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons, or launched a crippling cyber attack."

"substantially narrow the conditions under which the United States would use nuclear weapons, even in self defense."

Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms - NYTimes.com


From "45 Communist Goals":
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


'Goals' 4-45 can be found here:

Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record
You don't want to use such weapons unless they are used against you. That is a can of worms nobody wants to open up.
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Nuclear weapons are a deterrent and have saved how many millions of lives? How many wars and destruction of cities? Obama is a naive, foolish man but fortunately I have faith that our joint chiefs of staff would waste little time in forcing him to take the right course of action in the event of a military emergency.

Exactly right. It reminds me of strict gun control laws where only criminals would have guns.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:19 AM
 
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Rather than vaguely suggesting hyperbolic conspiracies, would you mind providing evidence for you assertions?

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So far as I can tell, Obama's simply governing as a slight-left-of-center president, no different than any Democrat before him, and proving to be quite successful.
He's NOT governing and he's nowhere near slightly left- of -center.
He's so far LEFT, he's over the edge.
And I cannot compare him with any previous Dem before him.
And how is he proving to be "quite successful?"

PROVE IT!

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All the evidence points to our nation in full economic recovery,
PROVE it.
Evidence, please.

building infrastructure and global relationships to compete in a global 21st century in which no one nation controls the world (perhaps the reason for his stance on nuclear weapons?). And yes, this would include ensuring residents are able to have access to health insurance.

So... cite your sources if you're going to delve into the realm of conspiracy and let's see what you come up with.
No need to cite sources, for what is so obvious.

Too bad some people are so blinded by their partisan loyalties, that they can't see what is so obvious to those who aren't.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:22 AM
 
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So what our President (I find it more painful daily to call him that) as told all of the nations on Earth is:

Don't worry about us destroying you if you want to attack us, as long as you don't attack us with nukes.

There is a reason our policy was set up to consider nuclear response to any attacks with weapons of mass destruction, it reminded everyone that if you messed with us we could and would knock your butts back to the stone age in response, and now he takes even this off of the table?!?
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Appeasement leads to War. Obama is undermining US sovereignty — that’s the overriding principle of his foreign policy, as well as his economic policies.

The question is when US sovereignty is gone who rules? Are we to become a vassal state to Obama's Muslim cronies?

YouTube - America **** yeah-team america
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Old 04-06-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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People forget we were winning ww2 and we still nuked japan.Don't believe for one second a country with nukes who are losing a convential war would not use nuclear weapons.USA and Russia will reducse nukes so instead of destroying earth 20times over they will now only destroy earth 15 times over.
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