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LOL, first you say it is fiction then you post as though you believe it's true. HMMMM
Um, apparently you didn't notice where I put him in quotes. Sorry, your attempt to try to bring religion failed....big time. You can continue trying though, it's kinda fun!
I feel for you, but there are way worse off people in this world. This isn't about you or me though. For ever person who tells me my God isn't real and dismisses my experiences I pray that much more that God can help me reach them somehow, but it's getting to the point where the ones who gave up on faith because of bad things in their lives can not be reached. what you mentioned about your life is bad in your life, but I do know of worse things adn yet the people believe God helped them the way they needed...not the way they wanted.
That is what people don't get. Just because something bad happens doesn't mean God isn't there. God didn't tell people to treat you bad. He gives us all free will to do as we want. I've been homeless as a kid among way more other things that I could go on about, but I won't because this isn't about a you verses me and my problems thing.
The way i see it when I was homeless I learned a lot and God always provided a roof over head and food even if me and my family were living in a car as a kid. It's not about what you get, or what you want in a situation because maybe that is the very thing that will hurt you or someone else for real. Maybe tests strengthen you in life instead of kill your faith. This is how I see it, and I am sure God is here for me and my family no matter what insults are thrown my way. It doesn't sway my belief because I've felt God's presence in my life. If you haven't then that is on you and something I wish I could make you feel but I can't.
Thank you for your response but this made me confirm even more than god isnt real. Why would god pick you or me to help us considering our lives arent that bad? What about those starving children in Africa, India, Pakistan and even HERE in the United States? Where is god for them as they lose more weight, become disease infected and whatnot?
Just because you got a roof over your head doesnt mean god gave it to you though. Just because something good happens doesnt mean god did it. Whenever something good happens, my mom says god did it. But when something bad happens, she blames someone else. Why isn't it equal? Either god does it or he doesnt.
Where is god for the gay kid that is about to commit suicide? Where is god for all those innocent people who died hurricane and whatnot?
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Atheists usually are the most cynical people of all. You live, you die, you are gone forever. Sad.
We might live long lives but we will die. I haven't heard Obama has given anyone eternal life so far. Maybe next week his PR people will be telling us that.
It is sad and true. What is so cynical about reality? You gotta face it. Jesus hasn't given me eternal life. Lord Obama may or may not have. You will never know just like I will never know if Jesus gave anyone eternal life either.
Atheists usually are the most cynical people of all. You live, you die, you are gone forever. Sad.
We might live long lives but we will die. I haven't heard Obama has given anyone eternal life so far. Maybe next week his PR people will be telling us that.
Thank you for your response but this made me confirm even more than god isnt real. Why would god pick you or me to help us considering our lives arent that bad? What about those starving children in Africa, India, Pakistan and even HERE in the United States? Where is god for them as they lose more weight, become disease infected and whatnot?
Just because you got a roof over your head doesnt mean god gave it to you though. Just because something good happens doesnt mean god did it. Whenever something good happens, my mom says god did it. But when something bad happens, she blames someone else. Why isn't it equal? Either god does it or he doesnt.
Where is god for the gay kid that is about to commit suicide? Where is god for all those innocent people who died hurricane and whatnot?
It is sad and true. What is so cynical about reality? You gotta face it.
God is there, but the people in power and that have money don't care. We are supposed to be there for each other in life as God teaches us that we are his children so we who believe are supposed to help those around us. God doesn't magically make boxes of cereal fly down from the sky, but he has provided trees with fruit and water supply from rivers, rain, and lakes.
I know you don't believe that but it's not my place to make you understand or believe it.
Those people you talk about who are starving in those countries have a way better outlook on life than we do in America because in America we are all about what we own and have in life. Instead of caring about what our neighbor has and owns and caring about others' needs. Now there are atheists that I have met that care more than Christians about people around them but those Christians are the reason why people hate Christianity.
People in Haiti were praising God after the earthquake and singing to God after the earthquake ...they have faith, but have nothing...we have all these material things in America but lack faith.
God is there, but the people in power and that have money don't care. We are supposed to be there for each other in life as God teaches us that we are his children so we who believe are supposed to help those around us. God doesn't magically make boxes of cereal fly down from the sky, but he has provided trees with fruit and water supply from rivers, rain, and lakes.
I know you don't believe that but it's not my place to make you understand or believe it.
Those people you talk about who are starving in those countries have a way better outlook on life than we do in America because in America we are all about what we own and have in life. Instead of caring about what our neighbor has and owns and caring about others' needs. Now there are atheists that I have met that care more than Christians about people around them but those Christians are the reason why people hate Christianity.
People in Haiti were praising God after the earthquake and singing to God after the earthquake ...they have faith, but have nothing...we have all these material things in America but lack faith.
Lets put it this way...you believe in god & we don't. It's quite simple & there's nothing that will change either of our minds.
Um, apparently you didn't notice where I put him in quotes. Sorry, your attempt to try to bring religion failed....big time. You can continue trying though, it's kinda fun!
It's not my job to convince you of anything, You will need to decide for yourself, I am just giving my opinion. We all need to work out our own salvation.
God is there, but the people in power and that have money don't care. We are supposed to be there for each other in life as God teaches us that we are his children so we who believe are supposed to help those around us. God doesn't magically make boxes of cereal fly down from the sky, but he has provided trees with fruit and water supply from rivers, rain, and lakes.
I know you don't believe that but it's not my place to make you understand or believe it.
Those people you talk about who are starving in those countries have a way better outlook on life than we do in America because in America we are all about what we own and have in life. Instead of caring about what our neighbor has and owns and caring about others' needs. Now there are atheists that I have met that care more than Christians about people around them but those Christians are the reason why people hate Christianity.
People in Haiti were praising God after the earthquake and singing to God after the earthquake ...they have faith, but have nothing...we have all these material things in America but lack faith.
I believe in being there for my neighbor and people in need, hence why I am for UHC to make sure NO ONE suffers especially in a country where we have status and money.
I am a bit older now than high school and I talk to younger kids who are bullied and try to help them out since I know oh so well how that feels.
I dont know what you mean by they have a better outlook on life. No food, hardly any clothes, very hot.....
Americans only care about we own and have in life because of capitalism. Note-I am not bashing it but that is what I feel it is. Now, I don't hate Christianity. I do loathe Islam though but that is for another thread.
We don't have faith? we lack it? Explain why "In god we trust" is on our currency. Explain why the majority of the USA is Christian. Explain why we have the Pledge with Under God in it. Why do they start every morning with a prayer in Congress and national prayer day? Why are the vast majority of Americans against gay marriage? Why do we have the Republican party if we lack faith? Ok, the last one was a joke though just so you know.
It's not my job to convince you of anything, You will need to decide for yourself, I am just giving my opinion. We all need to work out our own salvation.
Fair enough. I would like to ask you very politely to hold off on the judgment of people who don't believe in your god or any god whatsoever....it gets quite boring after awhile
I believe in being there for my neighbor and people in need, hence why I am for UHC to make sure NO ONE suffers especially in a country where we have status and money.
I am a bit older now than high school and I talk to younger kids who are bullied and try to help them out since I know oh so well how that feels.
Well it's good you're out there doing something like that
I dont know what you mean by they have a better outlook on life. No food, hardly any clothes, very hot.....
I am talking about how people here take the little things in life for granted just because they lack material things, and even with lack of food you see Africans that have an innocence about them when they smile and they make the best of what they have..Africa is a country with a lot of Christians even though they lack things we take for granted here. That is kind of what I'm referring to
Americans only care about we own and have in life because of capitalism. Note-I am not bashing it but that is what I feel it is. Now, I don't hate Christianity. I do loathe Islam though but that is for another thread.
We don't have faith? we lack it? Explain why "In god we trust" is on our currency. Explain why the majority of the USA is Christian. Explain why we have the Pledge with Under God in it. Why do they start every morning with a prayer in Congress and national prayer day? Why are the vast majority of Americans against gay marriage? Why do we have the Republican party if we lack faith? Ok, the last one was a joke though just so you know.
The majority of the USA claims to be Christian, but do not walk the walk. I am guilty of that as well in some cases, but we go through phases in life and I always care and think about those around me before making decisions but I do things to myself that is not good in God's eyes though.
The thing about in God we trust on the money and most of the other things you mentioned have been in place in our society for a while, but as more and more people get away from the reasons that stuff is there..the more and more child molesters come along, and the more women selling their bodies by way of pornography come along as well. Modern America is more and more about not caring about these things or what they put on TV to influence kids.
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