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There is only one solution to this imo; everyone needs to stop taking drugs(unlikely) or legalize them all (?).
US is funding this war on the cartels by the way...just saying.
Is this something that, in theory, the national guard is equipped to handle (if they were actually in the states)?
Not at all. The National Guard wouldn't have any real effect. The killers on the US side would be American citizens. It wouldn't be narcos crossing over from Mexico speaking broken English. It would be US gangs on the payroll of the Mexican cartels. And they wouldn't be driving lowriders and wearing bandanas, either. They'd be driving average looking cars, wearing average looking apparel. You wouldn't know them until it's too late.
The only effect the Guard might have is to slow down a few small-time smugglers trying to haul some marijuana across the border at an isolated location. And that wouldn't make a real difference in the overall situation.
I won't pretend to know what the solution is. Mexico has Juarez under martial law with a nightly curfew. There are thousands of regular troops in the city on patrol 24/7. And the violence has only escalated. The narcos simply don't strike when there are troops anywhere in the area. They can play a waiting game and the troops can't be everywhere all the time.
It may be a naive question, but where are your border control, police, and if necessary army?
There is a Border Patrol but the job is bigger than the current force can handle. The U.S. doesn't use the ARMY to patrol its borders.
It's the law.
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The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.
The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act during peacetime.
It may be a naive question, but where are your border control, police, and if necessary army?
Towns on the Texas/Mexico border are small with very limited police forces. They don't have the financial resources of the drug cartels and are not nearly as well armed. Our Armies are busy on the other side of the planet fighting for Oil/Opium interests so our own borders are neglected. Much of the National Guard is either deployed on the other side of the planet or working as support for those trapped in the sand box. Events in recent years have shown our government frowns upon a well armed militia so it's pretty much up to the regular working people who live on the border to arm and defend themselves.
Yes I did read between the lines of your post and understand your point. I agree it's time for our government to stop messing around everyone else's affairs and get our own house in order but I seriously doubt it will happen. Texans may be forced to take matters into their own hands and once that happens the underlying secessionist attitude will start bubbling to the surface and others will follow. I hope it doesn't come to that but this could be the tipping point that tears our nation apart. Many Texans tend to be very independent and if they feel the federal government is sitting idle while they get pounded, it won't take them long to deem said government impotent and useless. Texas has the population, resources, and attitude to stand alone if need be. It's also a donor state that sends more money to the fed than it gets back so it wouldn't take a lot. If Texas went independent, it might be a good thing for the rest of the nation because at least then there would be someone willing to protect our borders. But that opens a whole new can of worms.
This is a nasty problem. I have no issue with people defending themselves down there, however,the level of violence the enemy is capable of, and takes for granted actually, is something to be considered. If people are going to engage these varmints, they need to be aware of what they are getting into, and VERY prepared to go the distance. Unfortunately, US law ties private citizens hands in this regard. The only way to take on these cartels 'soldiers' is to hand them violence, x 50. Most regular citizens are not really capable of this level of mayhem, and are legally restrained from it anyway. Hard to fight an enemy that has no ROE when you have to be the 'good guy'.
If I owned a ranch out there, it would definitely be time to set up a perimeter alarm and practice hitting targets beyond 300 yards. These guys may be well armed, but I'm confident they can't fire worth **** at long distances.
They are free kills since Texas has a very liberal trespassing policy, especially with what's going on now.
I'm a pretty damn good shot with my .270. With a little wind calculation, I can easily put it within the first couple of rings at 500 yards. Damn I wish I lived in TX still.
If I owned a ranch out there, it would definitely be time to set up a perimeter alarm and practice hitting targets beyond 300 yards. These guys may be well armed, but I'm confident they can't fire worth **** at long distances.
They are free kills since Texas has a very liberal trespassing policy, especially with what's going on now.
You'd be wrong on several points. 1. Using deadly force on trespassing on a non-domicile property IS NOT a "free kill". If you're not in imminent danger you're targeting someone, and will be prosecuted. Even on your property.
2. These guys are VERY well armed. The escorts/scouts, not the coyote(s) or street level drug gang banger I'm talking about. Not a lot, but quite a few are ex-military/soldier of fortune types who are being paid very well to ply their trade.
3. A lot of these "out of work" soldiers from other Latin American countries, i.e. snipers/scouts are also in the employ of the drug cartels protecting their shipments from their countries. El Salvador, Honduras, Columbia...just to name a few.
However, if you're gonna zero a weapon, you're much better off zeroing at 150-175 yds. Even with a scope shooting a human being, a moving target even at that distance is much harder than hunting game.
But yeah, I would arm yourself if you're along the border. Buy a loading/press and multiple weapon gun cases. 10k+ rounds and at least 3 different weapons for 3 different engagement scenarios would be preferable.
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It's not like you probably imagine it
