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Originally Posted by Bosco55David
In a perfect world, yes, you'd be correct. Unfortunately here in the real world that doesn't happen and we have kids getting knocked up and spreading STDs which is a huge effing problem so now it becomes everyone's business and the government is forced to step in and attempt to make things better.
Every time the government steps in to make a situation better, they usually make things worse. Comprehensive sex education is a failure.
I'm wondering the same if you think it's acceptable when legislation is passed (by the people elected to serve and represent the people) and one ambitious government employee decides he'll impose his own legislation or otherwise be litigious. Challenging the law on merits through debate while it's being written and petitioning the law is the american way. Harassment and abuse is the taliban way. If you don't like that laws are passed or you otherwise lost on merit, retaliatory behavior is not american, nor is it christian, nor does it have anything to do with true conservative values. It's childish entitlement and in it's extremist form, it really IS taliban.
When 33.9 in 1,000 teens are pregnant in wisconsin, it's a safe bet that whatever 'threat' the man believes would happen to youth is a pre existing condition. As per usual, the only thing they've got to offer is tantrums, grandstanding, and grief. Note he is otherwise empty handed with solutions. In other words, you can't negotiate with a terrorist.
It burns my conservative side, knowing Beyounce is freedom of speech, but seeing a 20 something mother playing her hyper sexualized music repetitively for her 4 yr old... both are ignorant, but that it's coming from the parent makes me bite my tongue hard. YES, parents DO have to step up the education at home, but some aren't competent enough themselves and the child shouldn't have to suffer neglect from their ignorance. Those are the kids who find out the hard way if they ever figure it out at all. Seriously- what's the alternative-- start going into peoples homes directly like big brother? I don't think anyone would feel comfortable with that approach.
We haven't generally tried true comprehensive sex education. In fact, the subject would be better named Reproductive Health Education.
The goal of sex education should focus on the ostensible goal of teaching about the anatomy and physiology of the human reproductive system and its care throughout one's lifetime. This should include all stages of development, including menopause, malfunctions of the systems, cancers and other diseases of the reproductive system. A consequence of abstinence-only sex education is that schools are failing to educate about the range of reproductive health issues.
Even abstinent teens are likely to marry and have marital relations eventually. As adults, they will need to understand normal and abnormal reproductive system functions, including, but not limited to cancers of the reproductive organs--breast, cervical, ovarian, testicular, penile, and prostate, to name the most critical. Abstinent teens need to know how to do self-exams of the breast and testicles and the importance of regular medical check-ups for each stage of life.
Our girls need to learn at some point that there are genetic mutations that may influence them to have a prophylactic mastectomy. They need to be informed about endometriosis and fibroid tumors, ovarian cysts and cervical polyps. Boys need to be aware of how lifestyle choices will affect their prostate health. Both need to made aware of how infertility can impact people's lives.
Parents should provide this information, but unfortunately, most do not. That leaves school and peers as the primary sources of information. No one believes that a child's schooling is primarily for their immediate use. They are preparing to use their education in their adult lives. It may take decades before they ever have to use the knowledge they acquired in school, and no one has a problem with that. Why should reproductive education be different?
Even abstinence-only proponents should be able to agree that understanding one's own body and its functions is a critical part of a basic education. Abstinence education does not need to preclude the dissemination of information regarding infertility, endometriosis, cancer, and other common reproductive health problems. It has nothing to do with one's political orientation.
I'm wondering the same if you think it's acceptable when legislation is passed (by the people elected to serve and represent the people) and one ambitious government employee decides he'll impose his own legislation or otherwise be litigious. Challenging the law on merits through debate while it's being written and petitioning the law is the american way. Harassment and abuse is the taliban way. If you don't like that laws are passed or you otherwise lost on merit, retaliatory behavior is not american, nor is it christian, nor does it have anything to do with true conservative values. It's childish entitlement and in it's extremist form, it really IS taliban.
I was wondering when or if someone was going to actually address the subject of the OP, which is that a ROGUE prosecutor is defying the laws of his state instead of UPHOLDING them, which is his JOB.
Health Education teachers are legally bound by legislation signed into law by the Governor of their state to teach comprehensive sex education. But this religious nutbag tells them that if they FOLLOW THE LAW that he'll prosecute them on some trumped up charges of child endangerment.
A right wing nutball with a law degree tries to seek favor among "the base" by going after teachers...
It's completely consistent with rabid right wing viewpoints.
1. college professors are dumb liberals
2. education is just liberal indoctrination
3. teachers should all be fired, public schools should all be closed
4. the only school kids should attend is Sunday school, where they'll learn that Adam and Eve rode to church on dinosaurs
Look, everybody...
As obviously stupid and poorly thought-out this whole thing is, that Wisconsin prosecutor is scoring points with a certain segment of voters. Who knows? Maybe the mouthbreathers are the majority in his jurisdiction and this'll launch him to higher office.
This is a duplicate thread. But, for what its worth, I agree with all the posters who support this Prosecuter's attempt to put a stop to the public school's teaching Sex Ed to minors, who aren't legally allowed to engage in sexually activity in Wisconsin!
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Should ANYONE be surprised by this?
