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Old 04-11-2010, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Moving towards nuclear abilities with a death target on Israel. The U.S. China trying to negotiate sanctions which most believe will never work and Israel making plans. Just asking. Would like to know who thinks what.....?
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:31 AM
 
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Moving towards nuclear abilities with a death target on Israel. The U.S. China trying to negotiate sanctions which most believe will never work and Israel making plans. Just asking. Would like to know who thinks what.....?
Nuclear weaponization of the Islamic Republic would change the world. Just one of the ramifications would be proliferation across the middle east. It's already starting.
Thirteen countries across the Middle East have drawn up up new plans – or revived old ones – for building nuclear power stations.
The International Institute for Strategic Studies believes they were acting “in the shadow of Iran” and preparing for Tehran’s possible entry into the nuclear weapons club.
All the proposed nuclear programmes are civilian schemes designed to generate electricity. At present, there is no question of any international safeguards being breached. Yet if Iran were to test a nuclear bomb, every country in the Middle East would be forced to re-assess its defence policies.

And that of course is just one consequence. The Iranian regime is the world's leading sponsor of terror organizations. It uses them as proxy armies. A nuclear Islamic Republic could easily tranfer a device to one of those armies.

It's long range missiles currently can hit Europe and all of the mideast. An ICBM which could hit the US may very well be coming. U.S. intelligence officials contend that Iran could quickly develop such missiles by acquiring Taepo Dong-2 technology from North Korea. They routinely note that “if Iran were to acquire complete [Taepo Dong-2] systems from North Korea, it could conduct a flight test within a year of delivery.”"
European Missile Defense: Assessing Iran’s ICBM Capabilities | Arms Control Association
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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The trouble with Iran is that they had a democracy before we took it away.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:21 AM
 
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The problem is blatant hypocrisy, and total arrogance on the part of Israel and the United States who has been subverted by the most arrogant, racist regime on planet earth today.

The United States continuous subversion of Iran's internal affairs for the better part of 60 years is well documented, including the encouragement of Iraq and the CIA's puppet, Saddam Hussein's war with them, including the WMDs provided by the US to Iraq to be used against the Iranians.

The fact that it is against US law to provide foreign aid to any country who possesses Nuclear weapons who have not signed the non-proliferation treaty (Read: Israel), compounds the tensions, along with making every congressman, and every executive administration who have supported such aid to Israel as criminals and traitors. THAT IS A FACT.

Just as importantly, Iran has not invaded any country ... unlike the US, Israel, and Iraq (acting on US encouragement). Iran has been the victim of constant outside interference and threats, so if they truly desire such weapons (which they deny), who could blame them? Israel makes no secret of their ill intent toward Iran, so any threat Iran may pose to Israel is within the framework of defending themselves against the real, and well demonstrated threat Israel poses to the entire region.

I know this is not the common understanding among the American people, as they've been propagandized for so long now by the Jewish controlled media, but those are the facts, nonetheless.

If the United States would endeavor to act responsibly, and conduct our foreign policy with an even, and legal hand, rather that allow Israel to terrorize and threaten it's neighbors in the region CONSTANTLY ... a spirit of cooperation between the Jews and Arabs and Persians might become possible. But so long as it is a completely one sided affair, with Israel demanding total hegemony over the entire region, fear and resistance to that scenario will continue, justifiably.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:27 AM
 
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Moving towards nuclear abilities with a death target on Israel. The U.S. China trying to negotiate sanctions which most believe will never work and Israel making plans. Just asking. Would like to know who thinks what.....?
I'd like to know what gives the USA and Israel the right to have nuclear weapons but not Iran?

And I'd also like to know why your are lying about Iran having a "death target on Israel"....since Iran has not attacked another Country in modern history and Iran has said numerous times they wish to live in peace with Israel?

Furthermore I'd like to know if you know what the term "chickenhawk" means?

Typically it's full grown boy who encourages the USA to war from the safety of his own keyboard.
He may be down in his Mom's basement typing away with his camo underwear eating tater-tots thinking how tough and macho he is.
His type squandered Trillions and 5000 soldiers lives supporting the Iraq fiasco and now he wants to go on to Iran being the moron that he is.

Anybody you know?
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Old 04-11-2010, 12:19 PM
 
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And I'd also like to know why your are lying about Iran having a "death target on Israel"....since Iran has not attacked another Country in modern history and Iran has said numerous times they wish to live in peace with Israel?
hmmm... Every part of this is fabrication. Which should I tackle first?

LIE #1:
The OP is lying about Iran calling for Israel's destruction? That's laughable. A-jad, his predecessor, the Supreme Leader, the army chief of staff, generals, and members of parliament have all unambiguously threatened to destroy Israel.
Iran writes "Death to Israel" and "Death to the United States" on missiles exhibited on parade. Iranian MPs have boasted that they would use their nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. "Islam would survive the retaliation, but Israel will be gone forever."
Iran wants to destroy Israel - so what else is new?
Ahmadinejad: Destroy Israel, End Crisis

LIE #2:
"Iran has said numerous times they wish to live in peace with Israel"
That's so outlandish it's laughable. Look at my rebuttal to LIE #1. I also notice that you conveniently lack any source.

LIE #3:
"Iran has not attacked another Country in modern history"
Iran has attacked many, many times. The Iranian proxy armies are financed, trained, militarily supplied, and directed by the mullahs. They are part of the Islamic Republic's military forces just as the Republican Guards are:
- The Islamic Republic created Hezbollah. Republican Guards are embedded within its ranks. Hezbollah is Iran. This Iranian proxy has attacked Israel many times, including starting a major war in 2006. It has showerd Israel's cities and towns with Iranian-supplied missiles.
The Iran-Hezbollah Alliance - The Israel Project

-Ditto for Hamas. It could not exist without Iran financing and weapons.
Hamas wages Iran’s proxy war on Israel - Times Online

-The Islamic Republic is responsible for thousands of American casualties in Iraq:
Cox & Forkum: Iran's Proxy War
Iran's Proxy War Against the United States and Iraq | Institute for the Study of War (http://www.understandingwar.org/report/irans-proxy-war-against-united-states-and-iraqi-government - broken link)
http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/...ories-located/
LiveLeak.com - Hezbollah Brigades in Iraq: IED on US Humvee, Canal Street Baghdad
U.S.: Iran helped in deadly Iraq strike - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-07-02-iran-hezbollah_N.htm - broken link)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblog...k_for_iraq.asp
- Army News, news from Iraq, - Army Times

I've supported my reply with many sources, and there are many more.
A peace-loving, innocent Islamic Republic of Iran?! Bring on more bullsh*t.
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Old 04-11-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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When Iran gets the bomb (on Obama's watch probably) they will use it through their proxy army Hezbollah. The religious leadership of Iran believes they can bring about the events in Islamic end-times by triggering a nuclear war with Israel. They believe the 'hidden Imam" will appear and unite all of Islam under a new califate and bring about the Islamic golden age. The policy of MAD that worked with the Russians will not work with a doomsday cult like Iran. When they get it, they will use it.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Nuclear weaponization of the Islamic Republic would change the world. Just one of the ramifications would be proliferation across the middle east. It's already starting.
Thirteen countries across the Middle East have drawn up up new plans – or revived old ones – for building nuclear power stations.
The International Institute for Strategic Studies believes they were acting “in the shadow of Iran” and preparing for Tehran’s possible entry into the nuclear weapons club.
All the proposed nuclear programmes are civilian schemes designed to generate electricity. At present, there is no question of any international safeguards being breached. Yet if Iran were to test a nuclear bomb, every country in the Middle East would be forced to re-assess its defence policies.

And that of course is just one consequence. The Iranian regime is the world's leading sponsor of terror organizations. It uses them as proxy armies. A nuclear Islamic Republic could easily tranfer a device to one of those armies.

It's long range missiles currently can hit Europe and all of the mideast. An ICBM which could hit the US may very well be coming. U.S. intelligence officials contend that Iran could quickly develop such missiles by acquiring Taepo Dong-2 technology from North Korea. They routinely note that “if Iran were to acquire complete [Taepo Dong-2] systems from North Korea, it could conduct a flight test within a year of delivery.”"
European Missile Defense: Assessing Iran’s ICBM Capabilities | Arms Control Association

Thanks for the information and the link.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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The problem is blatant hypocrisy, and total arrogance on the part of Israel and the United States who has been subverted by the most arrogant, racist regime on planet earth today.

The United States continuous subversion of Iran's internal affairs for the better part of 60 years is well documented, including the encouragement of Iraq and the CIA's puppet, Saddam Hussein's war with them, including the WMDs provided by the US to Iraq to be used against the Iranians.

The fact that it is against US law to provide foreign aid to any country who possesses Nuclear weapons who have not signed the non-proliferation treaty (Read: Israel), compounds the tensions, along with making every congressman, and every executive administration who have supported such aid to Israel as criminals and traitors. THAT IS A FACT.

Just as importantly, Iran has not invaded any country ... unlike the US, Israel, and Iraq (acting on US encouragement). Iran has been the victim of constant outside interference and threats, so if they truly desire such weapons (which they deny), who could blame them? Israel makes no secret of their ill intent toward Iran, so any threat Iran may pose to Israel is within the framework of defending themselves against the real, and well demonstrated threat Israel poses to the entire region.

I know this is not the common understanding among the American people, as they've been propagandized for so long now by the Jewish controlled media, but those are the facts, nonetheless.

If the United States would endeavor to act responsibly, and conduct our foreign policy with an even, and legal hand, rather that allow Israel to terrorize and threaten it's neighbors in the region CONSTANTLY ... a spirit of cooperation between the Jews and Arabs and Persians might become possible. But so long as it is a completely one sided affair, with Israel demanding total hegemony over the entire region, fear and resistance to that scenario will continue, justifiably.
Agreed it has been impossible to get any predictable gains from Israel except their impulsive actions.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Given Israel's stance I am surprised that they have not done anything yet.
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