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Old 04-11-2010, 02:23 PM
 
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If the part of the bill that says you have to buy insurence is found to be unconstitutional what would happen?
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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They selected George W. Bush in 2000, so I suppose they could do almost anything. Personally, I doubt SCOTUS would take the case, because there is nothing unconstutional about the HC bill.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Nevada
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They are all crooks. We are being controlled by big brother. Obama is just as evil as Bush, dont believe the media hype that there is a difference. All the same BS, all the same crap. Vote obama out and hope the next guy is better.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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In that case, just that part would be thrown out. Of course Obama is counting on forcing young, healthy people to buy insurance in order to pay for the extra cost of ensuring people with pre-existing conditions.
I believe most of Obamacare will be undone in the next 3-4 years. i.e. before it goes in to effect. Real healthcare reform could be accomplished very easily:
1 Allow insurance companies to operate across state lines. Make them comply with state regulations of the state that they are headquartered in.
2 Do not put any regulations on insurance companies that you do not put on companies in general. In other words, stop making them in to utilities.
3 Allow people to buy just as much insurance as they need. Young people only need catastrophic care for emergancies with high deductable and cheap payments. Older people would buy policies that were mroe comprehensive. Sinlge males could buy policies that didn't include childbirth -- the number one medical expense.
Free market solutions, not more government control.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:36 PM
 
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Back to square one and the opportunity to put together a health care plan that actually addresses insurance reform while also increasing quality and access to care services while decreasing costs, abuse and fraud. All things that THIS law doesn't do.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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They selected George W. Bush in 2000
How did they do that?
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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They selected George W. Bush in 2000, so I suppose they could do almost anything. Personally, I doubt SCOTUS would take the case, because there is nothing unconstutional about the HC bill.
That's YOUR opinion. And which court do you sit on? never before has the government forced American's to buy anything just for being alive. If they can force you to buy health insurance (which is something entirely for your own benefit) waht can't they force you to buy? If the answer is nothing then you are nothign but a slave for the government since they can dictate how you spend every last penny of your money.
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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1 Allow insurance companies to operate across state lines. Make them comply with state regulations of the state that they are headquartered in.
That sounds good, but it wouldn't work, the insurance companies would just gravitate to the state with least regulations. That is what happened in the credit card industry.

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Old 04-11-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: NC
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Then that part of the bill would be thrown out along with 70 years of interstate commerce clause precedent.
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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Then that part of the bill would be thrown out along with 70 years of interstate commerce clause precedent.
Wrong. If I'm NOT buying insurance, than there IS NO commerce taking place.. This is where the interstate commerce clause fails.. You can regulate transactions taking place, but the failure to have a transaction is NOT commerce.. its a lack of commerce..
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