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Old 04-13-2010, 04:46 PM
 
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So many people hang on Beck's every word as if it were gospel. No wonder, when he feeds their paranoia with distortions and lies like this. Aren't any of you fans starting to come around to the fact that Beck is less than honest?
Think of Beck as that drunk in the bar who you want knock on his butt.

Take your punch or quit whining and go to another bar. In this case, movin' on to another bar looks like your better option cause your whining is, well, getting a bit girly.

Kinda like if you don't like the preacher shouting 'God damn America', then just go to another church.
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:07 PM
 
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Could you tell me some of the untruths Beck told today or do you have to wait for MM, TP and Kos to tell you what he said? Surely you don't know any of what he said or you would be screaming about his lies.
Jeez, get a clue, it's Glenn we're talking about, when a guy tells you he's in the "entertainment" business you can believe him..........BTW, who really gives a damn what he says, I hope you're not getting all your pearls of wisdom from a carny barker like him, do your reading, don't be so lazy, go ahead read a book, it won't hurt.......Really...
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:45 PM
 
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Glenn Beck, constitutional scholar
September 18, 2009 2:04 pm ET by John V. Santore

Glenn Beck fashions himself a proud and vocal defender of the Constitution, and yesterday, his self-appointed duties led him to attack President Obama's understanding of and commitment to that very document.

Beck began by presenting a montage of the Founding Fathers, and then cut to Obama's inauguration. After showing the president taking the oath of office, Beck played audio taken from a September 2001 radio interview Obama conducted with the public radio station WBEZ in Chicago. (The relevant portion of the discussion, if you would like to hear it, is in the "Slavery and the Constitution" clip on the page linked to above, 45 minutes and 20 seconds in.)

Played over the obligatory scary music, here is what Beck excerpted from the interview:
OBAMA: The original Constitution [edit] I think it is an imperfect document, and I think it is a document that reflects some deep flaws in American culture -- the colonial culture nascent at that time. [edit] I think we can say that the Constitution reflected a enormous blind spot in this culture [edit] and that the framers had that same blind spot. [edit] It also reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day.
Now compare that with what Obama actually said:
HOST: Barack Obama, what are your thoughts on the Declaration and Constitution?
OBAMA: Well, you know, I think it's a remarkable document. I think --

HOST: Which one?

OBAMA: The original Constitution, as well as -- as well as the Civil War amendments, but I think it is an imperfect document, and I think it is a document that reflects some deep flaws in American culture -- the colonial culture nascent at that time.

African-Americans were not -- first of all, they weren't African-Americans. The Africans at the time were not considered as part of the polity that was of concern to the framers. I think that, as [program co-panelist] Richard [John] said, it was a nagging problem in the same way that, these days, we might think of environmental issues or some other problem that, where you have to balance, you know, cost-benefits, as opposed to seeing it as a moral problem involving persons of moral worth.

And, in that sense, I think we can say that the Constitution reflected a enormous blind spot in this culture that carries on until this day, and that the framers had that same blind spot. I don't think the two views are contradictory to say that it was a remarkable political document that paved the way for where we are now, and to say that it also reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day.

Glenn Beck, constitutional scholar | Media Matters for America
One thing is for sure; the constitution was framed based on the colonial,
and ignorant racist mentality of that time, I don't see the need to blindly defend that document, I may not agree with everything obama says, but he hits the nail right in the head with this one....
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:56 PM
 
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Glenn Beck is a poor source of information, but he's an excellent businessman. I think he is indicative of the future of American television news. If the truth isn't profitable, make up new truths.

This isn't inherently native to the right or the left, it's simply the perfect expression of when the mass media decides to throw away journalistic standards in favor of larger profits. I feel bad for real conservative thinkers that it is the conservative leaning channel that has decided to this most aggressively. It's working, obviously.
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