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Health Care Access to More Americans... Bad for America.
Insuring Less Americans is Good For America
Yet another post that adds nothing to the discussion. Care to talk about the existing shortage? How it will worsen with the expansion of new patients? How there are little provisions in the reform bill to address the existing and anticipated shortage?
Or are you content to just stick with emotional platitudes?
Yet another post that adds nothing to the discussion. Care to talk about the existing shortage? How it will worsen with the expansion of new patients? How there are little provisions in the reform bill to address the existing and anticipated shortage?
Or are you content to just stick with emotional platitudes?
How does it not add to the discussion? I suggested couple of subject lines (like you did) that would fit nicely with the truthfulness of the thread/OP.
Isn't this thread about how more people having access to health care system will be a burden? Won't it imply that fewer people with access, the better it is? (that is... reduced burden on a system is a good thing). So, health care reform should be repealed... fewer people with access... better for America.
Better chance of our sons and daughters becoming doctors.
And where will they be doing their residencies? Because the reform bill didn't address the bottleneck that already exists there, and limits the number of new physicians each year.
Of course there are some changes..the creation of about 200 new med student openings each year. That should REALLY help out with the millions of new patients.
How does it not add to the discussion? I suggested couple of subject lines (like you did) that would fit nicely with the truthfulness of the thread/OP.
Isn't this thread about how more people having access to health care system will be a burden? Won't it imply that fewer people with access, the better it is? (that is... reduced burden on a system is a good thing). So, health care reform should be repealed... fewer people with access... better for America.
Don't you agree now?
Since you put it that way..yes I agree that it was foolish to go forward with a massive plan such as this without having the structural foundation that will support it.
Well, that would certainly explain all of the testing that keeps the free-standing radiology, etc. centers, many owned by the very doctors who order the tests, up and running. Up until very recently, Medicare did not cover visits to a GP but, they sure did pay for specialist treatment.
My doctor's office can perform many of the test that I need at a lower price (80% less) then the hospital lab the insurance company requires them to be sent to. And results are in minutes not in days or weeks. So I pay out of the pocket for many tests. Doesn't make any sense, unless the insurance company has a vested interest in the hospital.
Since you put it that way..yes I agree that it was foolish to go forward with a massive plan such as this without having the structural foundation that will support it.
May be, then, you would be the one purged from coverage, so another would benefit from it?
As well this doctor shortage in addition to pushing up wait times will also push up prices with scarcity in supply of labor.
This bill absolutely needs to be repealed. Swing voters voted to stop the Iraq war, not create yet more huge interference and problems in the healthcare sector.
"The new federal health-care law has raised the stakes for hospitals and schools already scrambling to train more doctors.
Experts warn there won't be enough doctors to treat the millions of people newly insured under the law. At current graduation and training rates, the nation could face a shortage of as many as 150,000 doctors in the next 15 years, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges. " U.S. Faces Shortage of Doctors - WSJ.com
Repeal the healthcare bill.
More high paying jobs! 150,000 doctors needed you say? Sounds good.
Change is difficult. Nobody said this would be a smooth transition.
Of course your solution is to repeal it...thus taking away insurance from 10% of Americans...because there is a short term doctor shortage....LOL
I dated a girl in the early 90s who chose the biotechnology/intelligence field over medical school because, at the time, medical malpractice liability was reaching fever pitch and the risk didn't make fiscal sense to her. She was nearly a genius, and would have made an excellent doctor. This is purely anecdotal, of course, but on the macro level its evidence that current affairs and industry concerns hold plenty of sway when a person comes to the crossroads of whether to enter the field or not.
Uhhh...Aero...a single anecdote does not qualify as "macro" anything.
May be, then, you would be the one purged from coverage, so another would benefit from it?
Why on earth would I have to be kicked out of coverage to make room for another? Unless of course, there simply isn't the resources currently available to cover all.
The 'doctor shortage' talking point is pure BS? Really? Explain that to the good folks in Massachusetts. With the passage of their reform efforts, thousands of people suddenly had health insurance. And went to see doctors. Who were so overwhelmed, that they are no longer accepting new patients.
Boston now has the highest wait time to see a new MD. People are going to the ED for common complaints because there are no MDs.
So, do tell...how will this be different on the national level? When you have 30million suddenly seeking care, and a shortage already of primary care MDs. Please explain how this is "extremist religion of capitalsim". Because it seems to me that it's extreme short-sightedness (even partisan blindness) to not grasp simple realities.
In time there will be more doctors. Not a problem. You expect instant gratification? Everything takes time. The bottom line is if you are against healthcare reform and against helping people obtain health insurance, you are essentially saying that only the people who have the financial resources to buy health insurance SHOULD BE treated, and everyone else SHOULD DIE. Period. So if someone has a low IQ but they are able to work at a minimum wage job and their company does not provide health insurance, or their company only employs them part time, that that group of people should die if they get sick because they cannot earn enough to buy health insurance in the previously outrageous "market" for health insurance.....then you go on to support that thinking by saying there aren't enough doctors to treat everyone, so the poor people and people with pre-existing conditions who cannot pay for health care out of pocket, should just not be treated because all the doctors should be treating the fortunate folks who have private health insurance. I think making life and death decisions definitely falls into the realm of the spiritual and those who believe in the Religion of Capitalism are advocating that very thing when they say "Oh, the healthcare reform law is bad, bad, bad because there are not enough doctors to take care of everyone, therefore, those that "have" (money, health insurance, etc) should be treated FIRST.
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I think making life and death decisions definitely falls into the realm of the spiritual and those who believe in the Religion of Capitalism are advocating that very thing when they say "Oh, the healthcare reform law is bad, bad, bad because there are not enough doctors to take care of everyone, therefore, those that "have" (money, health insurance, etc) should be treated FIRST.
