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Old 06-11-2010, 12:04 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Stupid questions? You obviously don't know what the history of "is" is. You're probably too young to know who said that, and why they said it. I said it because you got so bogged down in your personal definition of suck it up buttercup instead of debating abortion.

I honestly doubt you are capable of serious discussions based simply on the quality of the posts you have submitted thus far and your radical views.

Good luck in your endeavor to force women to have unwanted pregnancies. Don't hold your breath or you might cut off the much-needed oxygen to your brain. You needn't respond as I am already an emotional wreck from the guilt I feel for having robbed you of your invaluable time.
Why don't you educate me then. Who was the first to say "is" and why did they say it? I always love history lessons. Also while your at it because you seem so ingrained in history, why don't you tell me who was the first to say "to" and why that person said it also. Just so I don't make a mistake like using "to" in the wrong context.

Suck it up, is what is being said, it is being said to the person being referred to as buttercup. If you don't understand the English language and how it is structured, you have more to learn than me.

I don't know about you, but I am capable of multitasking. I can have silly discussions with you while still debating the primary topic at hand.

So tell me, if I am unable to have serious conversations about this, what does it say of the people here who have been able to maintain the conversation with me. Last time I checked I haven't been having a debate with a brick wall for the past twenty pages. And actually you have been in a debate with me also, so what does that say about you?

Whatever you say. This sentence just proves that you choose to read and remember what you want when you are in a debate, which frankly is not a very effective way of debating.

Your funny .
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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You are correct. This thread is not about religion it is about men controlling and subjugating women by forcing them to carry all pregnancies to term. Abortion is about power and who has it. This thread is about the freedom of half the human race. It is not about me, he, he.
notice you don't care about the "freedom" of the children being killed, especially the female ones? Ironic that the most helpless segment of society is "choice". Since when has "freedom" been associated with something like aborting your own child?
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:15 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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notice you don't care about the "freedom" of the children being killed, especially the female ones? Ironic that the most helpless segment of society is "choice". Since when has "freedom" been associated with something like aborting your own child?
Hey they are just happy that their mothers didn't choose to abort them. But once they are born the jump on the pro-abortion bandwagon too. They really don't care about anyone but themselves such a shame.
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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notice you don't care about the "freedom" of the children being killed, especially the female ones? Ironic that the most helpless segment of society is "choice". Since when has "freedom" been associated with something like aborting your own child?

ahhh bet the you back again? can you direct me to your post answering the forced breeding question? or haven't you answered that yet?

I get to these posts late as my time zone is after most of yours but I wanted to tank you all who posted about religion not being relevant to the thread or yourselves. you said it for me and better than I could have myself
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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Alright. We need to cover two subjects in order to further this discussion.

When is something living, i.e. when does life start and why?

When is something dead, i.e. when does life end and why?
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:42 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Why don't you educate me then. Who was the first to say "is" and why did they say it? I always love history lessons. Also while your at it because you seem so ingrained in history, why don't you tell me who was the first to say "to" and why that person said it also. Just so I don't make a mistake like using "to" in the wrong context.

Suck it up, is what is being said, it is being said to the person being referred to as buttercup. If you don't understand the English language and how it is structured, you have more to learn than me.

I don't know about you, but I am capable of multitasking. I can have silly discussions with you while still debating the primary topic at hand.

So tell me, if I am unable to have serious conversations about this, what does it say of the people here who have been able to maintain the conversation with me. Last time I checked I haven't been having a debate with a brick wall for the past twenty pages. And actually you have been in a debate with me also, so what does that say about you?

Whatever you say. This sentence just proves that you choose to read and remember what you want when you are in a debate, which frankly is not a very effective way of debating.

Your funny .
That's a nice rainbow you got going there, John. I'm GLAAD to see it . Here's a flag in your honor.

And I am so glaad that if my chosen method of BC fails, I get to have an abortion if that's what I want. Freedom of choice is here to stay.

God bless America!
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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Alright. We need to cover two subjects in order to further this discussion.

When is something living, i.e. when does life start and why?

When is something dead, i.e. when does life end and why?
I agree. I found out I was pregnant only 3 weeks into it. My son's "heart" didn't start beating until 8 weeks. I put heart in quotations b/c technically it isn't actually a developed, semi-developed, or even a developing heart. It's just blood circulating through my body to this particular cell that will eventually form and develop into a fetus with organs.

So, does that mean from time of conception to 6-8 weeks is it okay to have an abortion? Since it doesn't actually have a "beating heart?"
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:49 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Alright. We need to cover two subjects in order to further this discussion.

When is something living, i.e. when does life start and why?

When is something dead, i.e. when does life end and why?
Not that I am arguing on this side of the discussion (killing a baby [I'm arguing for responsibility instead]) I will say what constitutes life, and death is the abstinence of life so thats pretty simple.

Six characteristics of Living organisms

1. Must be made of cells.
2. Must be able to metabolize
3. Must be capable of homeostasis
4. Must be capable of reproduction
5. Must be able to respond to stimulus
6. Must be able to evolve over generations
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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That's a nice rainbow you got going there, John. I'm GLAAD to see it . Here's a flag in your honor.

And I am so glaad that if my chosen method of BC fails, I get to have an abortion if that's what I want. Freedom of choice is here to stay.

God bless America!

Oh please, the only reason I used those colors was because it is easier to do it that way than to quote each sentence individually. More proof you guys/ladies read into everything so much.
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:58 PM
 
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I have said this time and time again. It is not my fault you have not read threw the entire thread because if you did you would see I have answered that question numerous times. Before I joined this thread I had read threw all the posts already made before I made posts of my own, to make sure I wasn't repeating any questions. If you can't have the same respect for me as I give other people then, I don't know. If you are really interested in the answer to the question (which is what this whole thread is about) then you will stop complaining that everything isn't handed to you on a silver platter and actually do some work, go back and read threw the thread and find out for yourself.
That is the third lengthy post about why you won't answer such a simple question.


So, as I understand it, you feel women should be punished for having sex and that is why you are against abortion.

OK


Oh, and BTW, the word is "THROUGH" not "threw"
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