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Every one takes what I post out of context. I am specifically talking about useless surgury and tests. For example,an end stage renal disease patient who is 100,has dementia and whose fam wants physical therepy when she hasn't walked in 2 years. At this point comfort measures should be given instead of causing more harm
Physical therapy can provide comfort measures as well. Surely you are familiar with bedsores from lying in one place all the time? Surely you are familiar with the term range of motion?
Really? Go check it out yourself allnurses.com. you can't be a nurse because you would definately know that we have to do paperwork in addition to passing meds etc whatever the public thinks we do. Don't do paerwork,the facility doesn't get paid.
And some of us try mightily to decipher the barely literate and often incomplete henscratching of some nurses in order to do our jobs so that EVERYONE in the facility receives a paycheck, including nurses. No, I'm not in billing. Not sure where you got the impression that I'm a nurse. If I were one, I'd actually make sure the paperwork end of things was done correctly...something rather hard to come by at some facilities.
I have already checked out allnurses.com. So have a few of my RN friends and associates, and they all got quite a laugh out of it. I guess they're a few steps above the caliber of nurses who post there.
At any rate, let's get back on topic.
First you state you work in peds, then it's a NH. One, the other, or both?
Why does caring for the elderly (while grossly misrepresenting case scenarios) upset you more than the many acts of medical futility carried out on babies of extreme prematurity?
In many cases, neither type of patient will receive a 'cure' or high quality of life after intervention, but there's also no guarantee when treating patients between those two extremes.
Actually caring for patients and not viewing them as bothersome interruptions in one's day makes a difference. I highly advise it.
Personally, I just think Americans are getting more cold,cruel & selfish by the year.
I don't understand why people don't think it cruel to do a code on a frail 98 year old end stage cancer client over and over again. So we do a code,breaking her ribs in the process causing pain, after saving her,sending her to a hospital,she comes back to the nursing home but this time with mrsa infected bed sores, and still in pain
I don't understand why people don't think it cruel to do a code on a frail 98 year old end stage cancer client over and over again. So we do a code,breaking her ribs in the process causing pain, after saving her,sending her to a hospital,she comes back to the nursing home but this time with mrsa infected bed sores, and still in pain
Luckily, that is not typical for 98-year-olds with end-stage cancer (wasn't your last scenario 'end stage renal disease'? LOL).
Quite a few of them have a DNR on file. More patients might have one if their physicians could get reimbursed for that office visit while the patient is still lucid...but that's another thread.
And some of us try mightily to decipher the barely literate henscratching of some nurses in order to do our jobs so that EVERYONE in the facility receives a paycheck, including nurses. No, I'm not in billing. Not sure where you got the impression that I'm a nurse.
I have already checked out allnurses.com. So have a few of my RN friends and associates, and they all got quite a laugh out of it. I guess they're a few steps above the caliber of nurses who post there.
At any rate, let's get back on topic.
First you state you work in peds, then it's a NH. One, the other, or both?
Why does caring for the elderly (while grossly misrepresenting case scenarios) upset you more than the many acts of medical futility carried out on babies of extreme prematurity?
In many cases, neither type of patient will receive a 'cure' or high quality of life after intervention, but there's also no guarantee when treating patients between those two extremes.
Actually caring for patients and not viewing them as bothersome interruptions in one's day makes a difference. I highly advise it.
No one ever stated bothersome. Listen nurses have a choice in where they work. If you chose to be stuck in one spot that's your business. As I stated nurses can work in multple setting and if they don't like it they can move on to anther setting or work both simutanously. I have worked with kids that were born at 24 weeks and they are doing well,so it wasn't futile as you suggest. Your aren't even a nurse so I'm sure the nurses on allnurses know much much more than you will. Is that why almost 80% of nurses were for healthcare reform?
I don't understand why people don't think it cruel to do a code on a frail 98 year old end stage cancer client over and over again. So we do a code,breaking her ribs in the process causing pain, after saving her,sending her to a hospital,she comes back to the nursing home but this time with mrsa infected bed sores, and still in pain
Interesting, when someone questions a scenario that you post, you come up with a different one that matches your agenda.
I don't understand why people don't think it cruel to do a code on a frail 98 year old end stage cancer client over and over again. So we do a code,breaking her ribs in the process causing pain, after saving her,sending her to a hospital,she comes back to the nursing home but this time with mrsa infected bed sores, and still in pain
Let's see. I try to make a 98 year old. Who hasn't walked in two years due to arthritis and I get her up and she falls,giving her a concussion. Gets who gets sued? Even nurses have to carry malpractice insurance. No sorry I can't risk my license for that.? As I stated, are you made that you never made it to nursing school to make the big. Bucks? Anyway I know you are a liar because you cannot look at nurses notes other than docs and nurses and pt and ot and (social workers depending on facility),because that is a hipaa violation
Let's see. I try to make a 98 year old. Who hasn't walked in two years due to arthritis and I get her up and she falls,giving her a concussion. Gets who gets sued? Even nurses have to carry malpractice insurance. No sorry I can't risk my license for that.? As I stated, are you made that you never made it to nursing school to make the big. Bucks? Anyway I know you are a liar because you cannot look at nurses notes other than docs and nurses and pt and ot and (social workers depending on facility),because that is a hipaa violation
Who are you calling a liar?
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