Why are liberals so against UAVs/Drones? (Palestinians, Israeli, soldiers)
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Yes, what you show PROVES my point. Would they be asking those questions if there were a pilot? no... The ONLY reason the drone bothers them is because no american can get killed.
The repetition of a stupid statement will not make it any better, or true.
We liberals simply don't want the needles slaughter of innocents with these weapons. The military likes to not come clean on issues that show what they did/do wrong. ... It took a while to see the videos of the helicopter actions and the callous approach the military took with civilian targets.
Just because the US is involved doesn't mean we are not participating in war crimes. Accountability is what we want. , No war is what we want, the troops being safe is what we want. needless slaughter is not what we want. death and causalities are not what we want....
The repetition of a stupid statement will not make it any better, or true.
We liberals simply don't want the needles slaughter of innocents with these weapons. The military likes to not come clean on issues that show what they did/do wrong. ... It took a while to see the videos of the helicopter actions and the callous approach the military took with civilian targets.
Just because the US is involved doesn't mean we are not participating in war crimes. Accountability is what we want. , No war is what we want, the troops being safe is what we want. needless slaughter is not what we want. death and causalities are not what we want....
Can you please explain to me what you are saying?
How is it different if someone is killed via an airplane vs. a drone? What difference does it make? Do you think there will be no innocents kill if there's a pilot?
I can ONLY come to the conclusion, since there is NO difference between a pilot being there or not, when it comes to killing people, that liberals are really only concerned that there is no American to get killed if you use a drone.
Are you suggesting the Charles Lingbergh/American First movement? They were fascists, not liberals. They supported the nazis, hence why they didn't want the US to enter the war.
"Even with Hitler, they would still think today that offering hugs would have stopped Hitler. Fortunately society wasn't full of liberal wusses back then."
No, I was referring to the liberal who secured a near-unanimous declaration of war against Japan and Germany after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. Possibly the most influential liberal in American History...Franklin Delano Roosevelt. You and many others have become confused...in a lot of wars or "conflicts", you will find that a liberal was at the helm of the U.S. government.
I am not a liberal or a conservative. However, true conservatism -Paleo Conservatism- is anti interventionalist. The Neo conservatives turned the Republican party into interventionalist, before that it was almost always the liberals who were interventionalist.
"Even with Hitler, they would still think today that offering hugs would have stopped Hitler. Fortunately society wasn't full of liberal wusses back then."
No, I was referring to the liberal who secured a near-unanimous declaration of war against Japan and Germany after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. Possibly the most influential liberal in American History...Franklin Delano Roosevelt. You and many others have become confused...in a lot of wars or "conflicts", you will find that a liberal was at the helm of the U.S. government.
I am not a liberal or a conservative. However, true conservatism -Paleo Conservatism- is anti interventionalist. The Neo conservatives turned the Republican party into interventionalist, before that it was almost always the liberals who were interventionalist.
FDR presided over a nation that had segregation. The very military used to fight in WW2 was segregated. FDR was more of a socialist, but socially conservative. He would not be considered a liberal, he's more like a Stalin, but without the mass murderer asspect.
I see LOTS of complaints from the left about drones..
They're trying to say they are illegal and constitute war crimes.
Why? Because americans can't get killed.
Check out the ACLU's actions about drones.
Oh, please. The ACLU is asking for information about where the drones are utilized, and what their targets are. They are using the FOIA to push their case. They aren't complaining about drones. They are complaining that the American people don't have access to information about the how and how often and where drones are used.
Oh, please. The ACLU is asking for information about where the drones are utilized, and what their targets are. They are using the FOIA to push their case. They aren't complaining about drones. They are complaining that the American people don't have access to information about the how and how often and where drones are used.
Why aren't they asking those questions about piloted airplanes?
FDR presided over a nation that had segregation. The very military used to fight in WW2 was segregated. FDR was more of a socialist, but socially conservative. He would not be considered a liberal, he's more like a Stalin, but without the mass murderer asspect.
If you don't think FDR was liberal, then maybe you should define what a liberal is because I believe most people believe that FDR was possibly the most liberal president that we have ever had. He was the architect of most of the social programs that we have today.
Please define what a liberal is..it should be interesting.
Yes, what you show PROVES my point. Would they be asking those questions if there were a pilot? no... The ONLY reason the drone bothers them is because no american can get killed.
No,
I didn't read what you said in your OP in the statement I posted from the ACLU's own website.
You said that Liberals are against UAV's. No where in the ACLU's statement, are they against UAV's. They are against them being used as some type of assassination tool, to circumvent international and US law, but they aren't against them.
Don't you think if the ACLU were against drones, they would have been attacking the drones over the border? They have a lot more fights about immigration than war stuff.
Oh, please. The ACLU is asking for information about where the drones are utilized, and what their targets are. They are using the FOIA to push their case. They aren't complaining about drones. They are complaining that the American people don't have access to information about the how and how often and where drones are used.
do you honestly care one bit about what the military is doing? Serious question. I never thought your average civilian gave two s..ts about anything the military ever did. What could the UNaclu be hoping to gain from this? We kill people and protect our own. If anyone has a problem with that, I'll speak with them out back in private..
If you don't think FDR was liberal, then maybe you should define what a liberal is because I believe most people believe that FDR was possibly the most liberal president that we have ever had. He was the architect of most of the social programs that we have today.
Please define what a liberal is..it should be interesting.
Most socialist president until Obama, probably, but not liberal..
Liberals are socialists, who think they are "progressive" on social issues, that are anti anyway, who think that "understanding" and conforming your behavior is the way to prevent/stop conflict, they are also into controlling people's lives (ie smoking bans - FDR was a smoker) by banning things they don't like and imposing their views on others.
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