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More on that "whacko" from the '60s who wrote a book and DDT:
"However, DDT has never been banned for anti-malaria use,[20] and Carson argued in Silent Spring that:
No responsible person contends that insect-borne disease should be ignored. The question that has now urgently presented itself is whether it is either wise or responsible to attack the problem by methods that are rapidly making it worse. The world has heard much of the triumphant war against disease through the control of insect vectors of infection, but it has heard little of the other side of the story—the defeats, the short-lived triumphs that now strongly support the alarming view that the insect enemy has been made actually stronger by our efforts. Even worse, we may have destroyed our very means of fighting ... What is the measure of this setback? The list of resistant species now includes practically all of the insect groups of medical importance ... Malaria programmes are threatened by resistance among mosquitoes ... Practical advice should be 'Spray as little as you possibly can' rather than 'Spray to the limit of your capacity' ..., Pressure on the pest population should always be as slight as possible."
Actually, it has no effect except on mosquitos and a few other types of insects, propoganda notwithstanding.
I guess I should have said Mosquitocide...
I thought it was understood that this thread is about malaria which is spread by mosquitos.
Nevertheless, it's still classified as an effective PESTICIDE.
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn
So, a moderate concentration turns you into a liberal Democrat?
Looking back over the history of the last 60 years or so, that could explain a lot.
Guys who do the spraying walk around the village dressed up like this and you're supposed to be barefoot and half naked living around the spray residue of DDT? Who says there's no danger to humans being exposed to this stuff?
The other thing that's true, of course, is that humans never approach even a fraction of that concentration in the middle of spraying wide areas with DDT to eradicate malaria-carrying mosquitos.
Sounds reminiscent of the scares over Saccharine, back around the same time. Lab rats were given doses of saccarin, and some of them developed various maladies. So saccharin was heavily restricted. It only came out later, that the doses necessary to cause problems, was the equivalent of a human drinking some 700 cans of saccharin-sweetened diet soda PER DAY.
On the other hand, in areas suffering hugely from active malaria, a FAILURE to spray widely with DDT results in nausea, vomiting, dehydration, and millions of deaths... from unchecked malaria delivered by mosquitos. Those millions are dying NOW.
What kind of warped mentality says that these alternatives justify a ban on DDT???
It's only banned in the U.S.A. what part of this point are you missing?
Get off city-data and write to President Obama and your congressperson if you're so determined about this.
What can the USA do to FORCE nations who don't use DDT to USE IT?
The U.S. Agency for International Development supports indoor spraying in Angola, Uganda, Tanzania and Zambia. Non-DDT compounds are used primarily, although DDT is being used in Zambia and on the island of Zanzibar. In Zanzibar, about 85 percent of households agree to its use, said Tim Ziemer, a retired admiral who is the coordinator of the President's Malaria Initiative, created by the Bush administration last year.
Watching "American Idol Gives Back" tonight. They went to Africa, and are doing some sort of expose' on how rough people have it there. Doesn't take much producing or acting - they DO have it very rough.
And the most shocking statistic is one they recited near the beginning of the show: Every 30 seconds, someone dies from malaria in Africa. And 90% of all malaria deaths worldwide, occur in Africa.
A death every thirty seconds, is more than a MILLION deaths per year.
And it's not from something like cancer, which no one knows how to prevent or cure. It's from malaria... a disease that has been all but eradicated in many parts of the world. It's spread by the Anopheles mosquito, which carries the germ, and infects a human when the mosquito bites him.
That mosquito has been all but eliminated in the United States and most other modern countries. Thorough spraying with the insecticide DDT has effectively eliminated the threat of malaria in all those countries. Various environmental whackos tried to stop it, naturally, predicting disasters of various magnitudes, but none of their predictions ever came true (this is always the outcome of the whackos' predictions).
But now we find that DDT has been banned, when countries like Africa have people dying by the millions from a disease that DDT could control! And why? Because of fears that a few birds might be harmed! And not even the birds, really - the whackos are worried that the shells of their egg might be the wrong thickness, and a greater percentage of baby birds die than ordinarily do.
Let me get this straight.
These people think that millions of people dying, men women and children, is not too great a price to pay for keeping birds' egg shells the right thickness???
I haven't studied this as much as I usually study things, and I have to believe I missed something that justifies the withholding of a known cure for malaria, with relatively mild side effects, from people who are literally dying for it.
Someone PLEASE tell me what I've left out here.
PLEASE.
There are some very effective and for the US cheap alternatives. A Masceto net over the kids as they sleep. cost $2. That is very expencive in africa but really cheap in the US.
When this issue first started, the EPA did a prolonged and detailed study of the issued and concluded that DDT was not a significant threat to the environment. None of the things that had been blamed on it, acually happened. He refused to act, and did not ban the insectiside, so he was replaced. His replacement swept aside the meaningful and scientific study and declared it was harmful and the rest is history.
Millions die every year from malaria, but liberals don't care. The groups they seem to care so much about, the ones with eyes-of-brown, die by the millions, but nary a tear is shed.
Unbelievable hypocrisy on the part of leftists goons. Disase-born terrorism, if you ask me.
Please explain the role the United States EPA has over malaria control in Africa.
Concern occured when we found out that some DDT was staying in our bodies. In fact, it was found that an average American was receiving .025 milligrams of it a day! It was being used for many things such as agricultural products and livestock. Concern arose because of it's many uses. This concern started around the 1960's because of information found in a study.
In this study we also found that DDT gets into our bodies and it stays there, usually in thyroid, testes, fatty organs,and adrenals. DDT also stayed in tinier concentrations in our livers and kidneys. It tends to stay in the fat bodies of our bodies. DDT concentrations were very high in human milk.
Any mention, whatsoever, of harmfull results from it?
As long as one is not that attached to one's thyroid, testes, fatty organs adrenals, liver and kidneys, I see nothing harmful.
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