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Old 04-23-2010, 04:02 PM
 
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Agree or disagree, Let the hypocrisy begin, sorry, had to put that in there.
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:04 PM
 
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Agree or disagree, Let the hypocrisy begin, sorry, had to put that in there.
Are you saying you want open unfettered borders that allow people to come and go at will?
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:05 PM
 
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Are you saying you want open unfettered borders that allow people to come and go at will?
I'm saying I'm not willing to give up my rights in order to solve the illegal immigration problem. I'm not willing to give up my rights to catch terrorists either, foreign or domestic.
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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hypocrisy = Saul Alinsky bull.

Saul is also on record as saying ethics is determined by success.

those who like to talk about their opposition’s hypocrisy do so because they cannot debate the issues.
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:13 PM
 
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I'm saying I'm not willing to give up my rights in order to solve the illegal immigration problem. I'm not willing to give up my rights to catch terrorists either, foreign or domestic.
Good answer, it allows us to dismiss this thread early as a troll.
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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Are you saying you want open unfettered borders that allow people to come and go at will?
How many years have we had a border with Mexico? And when did our border with Mexico become a problem?

And why do we not have a similar problem with Canada?
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:18 PM
 
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hypocrisy = Saul Alinsky bull.
Gee, and to think that for all this time I thought it was Benjamin Franklin.

liberty
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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Gee, and to think that for all this time I thought it was Benjamin Franklin.

liberty
Obviously, Ferd thinks about Saul Alinsky all the time, right wingers love him.
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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How many years have we had a border with Mexico? And when did our border with Mexico become a problem?

And why do we not have a similar problem with Canada?
Are you saying you want no border controls?
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Illegal immigration is a small problem. The way to stop it, is to make it illegal to hire the non-citizen workers.

Make the punishment jail time. It would end illegal immigration overnight.

Pulling someone over, just because you think they are illegal aliens, is a bad idea. However, its not my state, and now Arizona will never be my state.

I'm just waiting for the first time, a police officer pulls over a legal Hispanic citizen. Then, they could find something in their vehicle.

That'll go before a federal court, and likely overturn the law.
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