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You have that wrong. They're not granting them the power to stop someone just because they "feel like" it. The police must be actively stopping them for a reason (e.g., traffic violation, tickets, warrants, drunk driving, loitering, panhandling, etc.)
There has to be a VALID LEGAL reason to stop said person. Once this person has been stopped it is then not ILLEGAL for the policeman to ask for a VALID LEGAL ID, and if the policeman has reason to suspect / doubt, that this person is a legal citizen of the US they have the right to ask for documents stating as much.
That is nothing but a bunch of bull crap. I'm Anglo and my wife is Mexican-American. I was driving through Kansas on my way to Minnesota by way of Texas with my wife, my daughter and my wife's aunt. We were pulled over "for having Texas plates." Afraid that the state trooper would have ticketed me for bull crap (after all, he pulled me over for bull crap) I let him search my car while traffic whizzed by us ten feet away on I-35. My daughter was 6 at the time.
If you think such legislation won't wind up being an open season on many legal Hispanic citizens of the United States, think again.
You don't think the AZ state legislature has lawyers who are well-informed of Constitutional law and who specifically knew the challenges the new law posed? It won't be struck down as it is NOT unconstitutional because the officers do need a VALID reason and if they have a valid reason, it would not be unreasonable search and seizure.
I'm proud to be an Arizona citizen!
So what you are saying is that we don't need Judges and law makers are just fine? And because YOU think they are well-informed of Constitutional law, it will not be struck down? Dream on.
You don't think the AZ state legislature has lawyers who are well-informed of Constitutional law and who specifically knew the challenges the new law posed? It won't be struck down as it is NOT unconstitutional because the officers do need a VALID reason and if they have a valid reason, it would not be unreasonable search and seizure.
I'm proud to be an Arizona citizen!
I think you're sorely mistaken. What you state is how it worked before this bill was signed into law.
PREVIOUSLY, cops needed a reason to dig into someone's papers, such as speeding, arrest for a suspected crime, etc.
NOW, according to everything I've read so far, the law empowers and obligates the cops to go after anyone who THEY deem to seem to suspect as being an illegal. If they have the "reasonable cause" of suspicion that you're an illegal, they can detain you.
And what is "reasonable cause"? How do you look at someone and determine whether you "suspect" them of being an illegal?
"Gee, they look like Mexicans and they ain't talkin American...."
I'm all for a real solution to seal up the borders, but you guys should realize that we just legalized racial profiling and that this is an extremely dangerous, un-Constitutional precedent.
LOL...You guys think enforecement will do anything to stop illegal immigration? The reason they come is because YOU pay them to work. Money doesn't grow on trees. Grass doesn't cut itself, oranges don't sell themselves. THey will continue to come as long as the same hyocrites pay for their labor. Until we can accept that fact that WE are greedy and look for and utilize cheap tax free labor, WE will..The best law would be to crack down on those that pay illegals. It's like drugs, do you go after the users/illegals or the dealers/greedy Americans that keep them coming back for more? We know the answer but only s few will admit it. It's more popular amongst closet racist to blame the "Mesicins"..
Speak for yourself please. I mow my own lawn, etc. No illegal alien necessary.
You don't think the AZ state legislature has lawyers who are well-informed of Constitutional law and who specifically knew the challenges the new law posed? It won't be struck down as it is NOT unconstitutional because the officers do need a VALID reason and if they have a valid reason, it would not be unreasonable search and seizure.
Speak for yourself please. I mow my own lawn, etc. No illegal alien necessary.
How do we know you're legal.
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