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Old 04-25-2010, 12:26 AM
 
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To liberalos medicare part D after liberals failed to deliver after decades. To conservatives actully taking action to defnd our way of life after beig attciked by thsoe who wouold deny us that right. Even Obam has now admitted his surge worked with his trting to copy it in afganistan while actually keepign his top adicors ;Gates.His real problem is he does have the support within his won party to do it fully. half measures usually fail in war.He also manage to accomplished what Kerry said was priorit #1 after Sadsam was till in power after the guld war. Kerry said that suddam was the most dangerous threat to world peace and that he favor regime change by whatever measure needed.But then what do you expect froma aprty that thought that Calinto bombing LIbyas leaders home and killing his famioly only was a great military accomplishment.Wag the dog thinking.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:31 AM
 
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Creating the largest marine sanctuary in the world.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:40 AM
 
Location: east of my daughter-north of my son
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I stated I disagreed with the invasion. Iraq may have been wrong, but getting Saddam was not.

Yep, but leaders can affect whether a nation remains united or becomes divided. I give credit where credit is due. Bush did a good job right after 9/11.
Actually NV, I wasn't disagreeing with you. Those were the two things that popped into my head when I read the title of the thread.

And quite true, the world without Saddam is a much better place. I'm sure the Kurds agree.

Truly when I think of 9/11, it's just that horrible day. After that a lot of things are a blur. I did appreciate that he went to Ground Zero and met with the workers there. That does stay with me. Also, Reagan after the Challenger explosion was quite comforting. You're right, leaders can make a difference.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Lubbock, Texas
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Was there a NoTEA (Not Taxed Enough Already) Party when Bush was around? Were there liberals pinning egg-throwings and obscenity-shoutings on conservatives when Bush was around? I don't recall any of that. Maybe I was asleep too. But, in the words of the Almighty Obama himself, there seems to have been a lot less "vitriol" and "troublesome" commentary when Bush was around.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I'm not the biggest fan of Bush but the country was quite a bit less polarized while he was in office than it is now. Sure, there were disgruntled liberals but the country was not nearly as polarized as this administration is making it. The country is truly split down the middle, people are very frustrated, and I can almost see a 2nd civil war of sorts coming to a boil. I can honestly say I felt more safe having Bush in office than I do with Obama. A chain of events will soon trigger an ugly response in the American public and I for one am preparing for some violent act to set the nation into a frenzy.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:58 AM
 
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He had principle, humility, fortitude, and humbleness.

The right man for the job at that precise moment in history.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:58 AM
 
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I'm not the biggest fan of Bush but the country was quite a bit less polarized while he was in office than it is now. Sure, there were disgruntled liberals but the country was not nearly as polarized as this administration is making it. The country is truly split down the middle, people are very frustrated, and I can almost see a 2nd civil war of sorts coming to a boil. I can honestly say I felt more safe having Bush in office than I do with Obama. A chain of events will soon trigger an ugly response in the American public and I for one am preparing for some violent act to set the nation into a frenzy.
I disagree. I don't think it's the administration that's responsible. I find that to be a vague and extremely difficult to prove claim at best, and it isn't that much worse now. This level of partisan rhetoric has been going on since Clinton was in office, at the very least.

It's interesting that when Bush was still in office, FOX and others were claiming there were all these hateful liberals out there who were apologists for terrorists and "freaks" like Cindy Sheehan. Remember waterboarding? Abu Ghraib? The GITMO argument? 9/11 Truthers? How strange that there seems to be some sort of mass amnesia about these things.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:59 AM
 
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Was there a NoTEA (Not Taxed Enough Already) Party when Bush was around?
No, but this just goes to show that Obama is not polarizing this country, but angry and misinformed Republicans are. Unless you are a smoker, Obama cut your taxes. In fact, Obama passed one of the largest cuts in history.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Houston, texas
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President George W Bush is evidently the first mentally retarded person to get a Harvard M.B.A.,graduate from the U.S. Air Force Flight School, be elected governor of Texas, and then be elected President of the United States twice.I guess that is what they call mainstreaming. Admittedly, it took Bush two weeks to learn how to pronounce "Shiite", but he had higher grades at Yale than John Kerry. Then again, who didn't?
Many people would like to give George Bush credit for transforming the entire Middle East. But it was inevitable; it was going to happen anyway. It would have happened under John Kerry.
For 8 years the Bush administration kept America safe from another terrorist attack, Alowing the democrats to claim that the war on terrorism is a fraud, a sneaky ploy by a power- mad president to create an enemy so he could spy on innocent librarians in Wisconsin. And thats the view of the moderate democrats.The rest of them think Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks.
After living through an administration that produced a cornucopia of contempt for women and felonious behavior, the very same people who were defending the felons are now beyond indignation about Bush. After years of defending Clinton, liberals love the piquant irony of calling Bush a liar.
If George W Bush announced that a cure for cancer had been discovered, Democrats would complain about unemployed laboratory rats.
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Old 04-25-2010, 01:03 AM
 
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If George W Bush announced that a cure for cancer had been discovered, Democrats would complain about unemployed laboratory rats.
Yeah, and I can make the same specious claim in reverse, by just replacing "Bush" with "Obama".

That's a profound truth you've stumbled upon!

Happy intellectualizing.
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