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Old 04-30-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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Huge oil spill, but who really cares?
Life in America will go after the oil hits land just as it did before.
The main attitude is: So What!
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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We need our government to take care of our welfare, no matter who is drilling off our shores. We have oil rigs from China, Mexico, Vietnam, Cuba etc... We need the feds to spring into action immediately! We had nine days to try and head it off, and all i saw was a few oil company skimmers and even fishing boat operators volunteering to string out containment nets.
The fact of the matter is that major oil spills are a part of an oil based technology. They are endemic. You can neither prevent them all not mitigate them all. If you drill offshore,you are periodically going to have crapped up beaches. That's why California and Florida don't allow offshore drilling any more.
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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Media Matters?? Really??
Yes, MediaMatters, really! Don't be afraid. It backs up everything, Rush's lying audio 'n' everything.

You need to keep reading down the page... it continues with the responsible day-by-day reporting full of back-up links, you see.
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:36 PM
 
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The president did not respond to the oil spill, what you cited was an automatic response by the Coast Guard to a maritime disaster, not a response to the oil spill, which will end up being 0bama's Katrina.
It won't be Obama's "Katrina" because this wasn't an unpreventable natural disaster. Nobody can be blamed for a hurricane, only their response to it after the fact. Somebody can definitely be blamed for an oil spill, and the 'response' should be paid for by the guilty party, who should also have emergency response teams in place for just such an occurrence. It's not like this type of thing has no precedent in the industry.
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:36 PM
 
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This was a search and rescue mission because of an explosion at sea, not a FEMA type response to a potential environmental and economic disaster.
Sorry to break in, but marine disasters are the sole responsibility of the U.S. Coast Guard, not FEMA.
Environmental activities of the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) fall within the service’s program for protection of natural resources, and consist of maritime oil spill prevention, marine debris, and pollution response preparedness. Protection of living marine resources and fisheries also falls in this category, but is not discussed here.1 Marine environmental
protection is one of six “non-homeland security missions†specified in the Homeland Security Act of 2002.2
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22145.pdf

Oil reaches shore as Coast Guard defends response - Louisiana Oil Spill | The effects of the Deepwater Horizon explosion - Salon.com

Secondly, it is the responsibility of the company to provide first response to any accidents on their rigs.
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:47 PM
 
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Yes, MediaMatters, really! Don't be afraid. It backs up everything, Rush's lying audio 'n' everything.

You need to keep reading down the page... it continues with the responsible day-by-day reporting full of back-up links, you see.
I'm sure Rush was referring to president 0bama not doing anything about the oil spill.

Maybe you and the partisans at Media Matters, equate the coast Guard offering help because of an explosion at sea, is the same thing as the federal government reacting to save American shore lines from an oil slick, but no one else does.
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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[quote=chiaroscuro;13980621]It won't be Obama's "Katrina" because this wasn't an unpreventable natural disaster.[quote] Katrina was a natural disaster, one that Bush could do nothing about until it hit land. Bush could not do anything to lower the intensity of the storm. An oil spill is not the same at all. The federal government could have attempted to contain this oil spill, by sending out skimmers, containment nets, oil dispersant chemicals - we had nine days to do something.

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Nobody can be blamed for a hurricane, only their response to it after the fact. Somebody can definitely be blamed for an oil spill, and the 'response' should be paid for by the guilty party, who should also have emergency response teams in place for just such an occurrence. It's not like this type of thing has no precedent in the industry.
The United States needs to rely on its own resources to contain oil spills out at sea and not rely on whatever country owns the oil rig or ship that is leaking oil, to contain the spill for us.

0bama did nothing at all. Is this sound policy, for our country to do nothing? Is there no action plan to contain oil spills in the gulf of Mexico, other then to wait until it hits our shores, and then send out teams of government lawyers??
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:04 PM
 
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BP will go under....and there will be no one left to pay.....except the Taxpayer....stay tuned.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:09 PM
 
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Maybe you and the partisans at Media Matters, equate the coast Guard offering help because of an explosion at sea, is the same thing as the federal government reacting to save American shore lines from an oil slick, but no one else does.
So the Coast Guard is some volunteer organization not affiliated with the Federal Government, either that or you can't read links that demonstrate that the Coast Guard as primary responsibility for responding to maritime disasters including off shore oil leaks (there has to be a better word that leak).

Or,

Did you just ignore the posts so you could continue arguing in a purely partisan and biased manner?
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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At the current rate of 42,000 gallons of oil per day, the leak would have to continue for 262 days to match the 11 million gallon spill from the Exxon Valdez in 1989, the worst oil spill in United States history.

42,000 Gallons Per Day May Be Gushing Out of Well - NYTimes.com
Hey great.

How much do you want to pay for gasoline and electricity? If the answer is not $6 gal for gas, perhaps you should come up with a better answer. Oh, I forgot. Liberals love to complain but offer no solutions.

Is your "solution" then to ban all offshore oil drilling? It seems so, as this could happen to any one of the offshore platforms. We will all be fine burning firewood- that is , of course, until we have cut down all the trees in the US. Nuclear and coal? Are you kidding? A liberal would never support that. Better stick with the firewood and burning dung.
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