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Old 04-26-2010, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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..and it has done nothing to curb illegal immigration. So you want to double down what already hasn't worked (and include the legal harrassing of American citizens). That's very GOP of you. Thanks for sharing.
It hasn't worked until now. But from now on it will.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:01 PM
 
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..and it has done nothing to curb illegal immigration. So you want to double down what already hasn't worked (and include the legal harrassing of American citizens). That's very GOP of you. Thanks for sharing.
Of course it's done nothing, it hasn't even gone into affect yet.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:04 PM
 
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..and it has done nothing to curb illegal immigration. So you want to double down what already hasn't worked (and include the legal harrassing of American citizens). That's very GOP of you. Thanks for sharing.
Precisely. Now AZ law enforcement has another tool in its toolbox. Illegals have shown that they're not capable of obeying the law, now they get to suffer the additional consequences. This is a pay to play world we live in. You pay your way through legal means, you get to play. If you slide in through the side door, you get to play in a jail cell. It's pretty simple, really.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:04 PM
 
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Why should the people be taxed further by the Government? Isn't the INS already there to take care of the problem? We are already paying every INS employee wages and compensation, retirements, and so forth.
..and they are doing the best job they can with the resources they have. If you don't want to provide them with additional resources then DONT COMPLAIN. That's our problem, we always want the scary government to do something but we dont want to pay for it. Then, we dont want government in our lives, then we do..Which is it? The solution is not to have a state enact a law the government can simply ignore (excepting the illegals and legals arrested), rendering this entire exercise a waste of time (which it is anyway).
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:06 PM
 
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Of course it's done nothing, it hasn't even gone into affect yet.
I was reffering to the poster speaking of the 400,000 illegals arrested each year..A lil slow on the uptake I see.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:08 PM
 
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Precisely. Now AZ law enforcement has another tool in its toolbox. Illegals have shown that they're not capable of obeying the law, now they get to suffer the additional consequences. This is a pay to play world we live in. You pay your way through legal means, you get to play. If you slide in through the side door, you get to play in a jail cell. It's pretty simple, really.
They have a tool that Arizona police don't want and the Feds don't have to except. If a federal detention center turns them down, they're SOL. Sounds like a pretty ineffective tool to me..Seems to me that folks need to sit down and get some comprehensive immigration reform done. Also, jails don't have infinite space and Arizona doesn't have infinite money and infinite police.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:10 PM
 
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Are you saying 70% of Arizona's population are white?

Seriously?
Why make yourself look foolish for the sake of an argument?
No, I'm saying that they're racists. Duh. Anyone who supports the idea that Hispanics (or any other ethnicity) should be singled out and be required by law to carry identification at all times to prove that they're Americans is a racist. Period. There no way anyone can possibly deny this without lying or looking stupid.

And aren't you the one who thinks that Hispanics are "parasites?" Yeah, like you're in any position to be lecturing me on racism.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No, I'm saying that they're racists. Duh. Anyone who supports the idea that Hispanics (or any other ethnicity) should be singled out and be required by law to carry identification at all times to prove that they're Americans is a racist. Period. There no way anyone can possibly deny this without lying or looking stupid.

So have you checked to see that hispanic Arizonans also like the idea. Only 23% don't like it.
Hispanics are the majority in Arizona, Einstein.

So hispanics are racist against hispanics?
Why make yourself look even more foolish?




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And aren't you the one who thinks that Hispanics are "parasites?" Yeah, like you're in any position to be lecturing me on racism.
Their is a very big difference in illegal alien and hispanic.
Once again, your looking foolish to the masses that view here.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:15 PM
 
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No, I'm saying that they're racists. Duh. Anyone who supports the idea that Hispanics (or any other ethnicity) should be singled out and be required by law to carry identification at all times to prove that they're Americans is a racist. Period. There no way anyone can possibly deny this without lying or looking stupid.

And aren't you the one who thinks that Hispanics are "parasites?" Yeah, like you're in any position to be lecturing me on racism.
The law specifically states that race cannot be used as a determining factor, have you even read the legislation?
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:27 PM
 
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..and they are doing the best job they can with the resources they have. If you don't want to provide them with additional resources then DONT COMPLAIN. That's our problem, we always want the scary government to do something but we dont want to pay for it. Then, we dont want government in our lives, then we do..Which is it? The solution is not to have a state enact a law the government can simply ignore (excepting the illegals and legals arrested), rendering this entire exercise a waste of time (which it is anyway).
Well....there is still a thing called STATE'S RIGHT'S.......which was the way it was supposed to be until the Federal Govt. decided that this piece of the Constitution was not in accordance with the uniformity they so desperately, seek.

So.....the real question is......
Do you suppoert the will of the people within a state......over the will of the Federal Govt?
Do you support State's Rights over the will of the Federal Govt?

If so.....you should see this as a true victory for State's Rights and the laws enacted by them...(AZ, in this case).

Obviously, the current admin. does not agree and the Federal Govt. has all but given up on THEIR end of ENFORCEMENT....thus, leaving the mess for the state to deal with.

And Arizona IS dealing with it in a way that the Fed. knows would cause THEM too big of a headache and threaten their present status quo approach to the matter.

They LIKE the status quo and their legislation along with their lack of REAL enforcement only helps to perpetuate a problem that keeps getting bigger with each passing year.
I mean.....just LOOK at how "successful" they have been at keeping drugs and illegals OUT of the US.....so far.

They haven't.....and NO amount of money, manpower or high-tech "toys" will stop them (illegals/drug smugglers).....as long as corruption is allowed to permeate the room in the way it has for DECADES!
But....you know those high-tech toys are fun to play cat and mouse with, they keep a LOT of people securely employed and the status quo approach allows the "business" associated with it all to thrive indefinitely and at taxpayer expense. The "toys" developed for their use, will always add some fuel to their fire, if you know what I mean.

It's business.....as usual.
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