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Old 04-27-2010, 06:41 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Are people nuts? Apparently, a lot of people, and big corporations that you never would have guessed, are! It isn't just Al Gore.

Ever heard of Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX)? Chicago Climate Exchange

This outfit was started in 2000 with a grant from the Joyce Foundation. The Joyce Foundation, once a fairly conservative philanthropic foundation, began to move far left after the death of the founder, Beatrice Joyce Kean, in 1972. Today, it is involved in making grants to radical environmental causes, "social justice" groups, and other leftist causes. Barrack Obama was recently on the Board of Directors, and it was Barrack Obama that initially secured the funding for CCX.

The Climate Exchange bills itself as "a financial institution whose objectives are to apply financial innovation and incentives to advance social, environmental and economic goals", and "The Worlds First and North America's Only Greenhouse Gas Emissions Registry, Reduction and Trading System". In other words "Cap 'n Trade". They sell and trade "carbon offsets"

AS reported on Fox News Channel (for you leftists: Why is no other News organization reporting this?), in 2006 Goldman Sachs, whose many former officers now serve in the Obama administration, ponied up to purchase 10 percent of the combined company, and they stand to make millions, if not billions off this investment. So, they aren't too worried about a little slap on the wrist by the administration, which we now realize is just for "show" to convince the American people that they are on our side (not).

But back to the Joyce Foundation. This Foundation also funds the Tides Foundation, and has been providing grants to John Ayers (brother of William Ayers, domestic terrorist, and friend of Barrack Obama).

Franklin Raines, who at the time was CEO of Fannie Mae, and found guilty of accounting fraud in that organization, purchased the patent on the trading system, which was approved by the U.S. Patent and Trade Office on Nov. 7, 2006.

If you find all this interesting, please do some further research. These people are all in bed with one another, and none of them have our interests at heart.

Disgusting!
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default And just when you thought Cap 'n Trade was dead and "Climate Change" was debunked ...

You never should have thought either of those things.
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Sounds like any other big business group. They are the essence of the American Way. First figure out a way to make or redirect money from ther many to the few. Then set it up and get political approval. This is no different from the other exchanges. It is the Capitalist Way.
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:56 AM
 
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10% ownership by Goldman Sachs...I'm sure they have the taxpayers (cough) and the climate's (cough cough) best needs in mind.

Liberals and other weak minded individuals will be taken in by the judicious use of green coloring on their website.
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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of course 'cap and tax' and climmate change are still around.....its the liberals dream...the PREFECT tax
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:20 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Sounds like any other big business group. They are the essence of the American Way. First figure out a way to make or redirect money from ther many to the few. Then set it up and get political approval. This is no different from the other exchanges. It is the Capitalist Way.
Sorry. This isn't "the American way". This isn't "capitalism". This is corruption of the worst sort. This is Enron all over again. This is worse than Enron, and the Federal Government is involved in this scam. Barrack Obama is involved in this scam, and Fannie Mae is involved in this scam.

These are the people who caused the current crisis we are in, and they are allowed to continue by a "press" that will not do the job the Constitution gives them the freedom to do, and the founders expected them to do.

Only Fox News is doing this job, and they get criticized by people like you.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:25 AM
 
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All these poeple that support such nonsense like C&T will be bitching and complaining when they can barely eat or keep their lights on, then you will hear them screaming for a tax break! You watch, it will definitely happen. These people constantly change their stance on the issues to match what is actually happening. There is absolutely no principled thought process going on with these people. Pure sheep I tell ya!
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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Hasn't carbon offset trading been going on for years? How is this new?

Emissions trading - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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Hasn't carbon offset trading been going on for years? How is this new?
Just send me check and I'll set aside some trees for you that I'm not going to cut down anyway.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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These dirt bags will make a fortune off of our backs since we will be paying incredibly high energy prices and retrofitting our homes..it's all about the money..phoneys..the liberals claim to be for the people..when they are only for themselves..can't wait to boot their butts out of town..
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