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View Poll Results: Is it appropriate for The Washington Times to call transgender people "weirdos"?
Yes 24 53.33%
No 19 42.22%
Not sure 2 4.44%
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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I lean toward agreeing with you. As long as the American Psychiatric Association calls transgenderism "gender identity disorder", I don't think it's right for Congress to put them in the same category as homosexuals. With that said, I don't believe the Times should call someone with a mental problem a "weirdo". It's unprofessional and crass.
The Psychiatric Association also classified homosexuality in a similar manner not all that long ago. Changed that due to pressure, and will probably do the same with transgenderism. They like to be pc.

While everyone is talking about "rights" of select groups, what about the rights of everyone else?

I agree that IF it is a mental problem, it should not be referred to as "weirdo".

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Old 04-27-2010, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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The Psyciatric Association also classified homosexuality in a similar manner not all that long ago. Changed that due to pressure, and will probably do the same with transgenderism.

They like to be pc.
They already did, they don't consider transgender issues to be mental illness. But that was done purely out of political correctness.

I don't think that homosexuality is a mental illness. It's abnormal, but it's not the same as wanting to surgically remove your genitalia because you think you are something that you are not.. Homosexuals arent' trying to be somethingi they are not..
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Mentally ill people should get treatment, and not be enabled.
That is a good idea, but we are talking about transgender people here, not mentally ill people.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:29 PM
 
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The Psyciatric Association also classified homosexuality in a similar manner not all that long ago.
That was in 1973 or 1974, so I don't think we should jump ahead of ourselves and include transgenderism in the same category.

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Changed that due to pressure
That sounds like a biased opinion. You have to consider that lots of research and studies have been done on homosexuality, and that professional opinions can change.

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While everyone is talking about "rights" of select groups, what about the rights of everyone else?
Which rights are you referring to, specifically?
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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They already did, they don't consider transgender issues to be mental illness.
The editorial says that it is still officially a mental disorder. Is the editorial wrong?

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But that was done purely out of political correctness.
Really? How do you know that?
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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That is a good idea, but we are talking about transgender people here, not mentally ill people.
They are mentally ill, and some PC decision to say they're not doesn't make them not mentally ill.

If I took a knife and cut off my penis because I think I should be a woman, despite having a penis, I'm not mentally ill?

If I am white, but think i am black, and want to have surgery to make myself look black, I'm not mentally ill?

If I think I should have been a dolphin, and have a fin implanted into me, I'm not mentally ill?

Quit with the political correctness. It doesn't take away the reality of the situation.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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The editorial says that it is still officially a mental disorder. Is the editorial wrong?



Really? How do you know that?

Can you give me any other possible situation where it would not be considered a mental illness if someone couldn't accept what they are, and wanted to have drastic surgery and take dangerous medications to become something they are not?

Can you?
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Question for liberals who don't think transgender is a mental illness. Here's a hypothetical.

I am a beta male, I haven't had sex for years, and I decide, I don't need a penis, it would be easier to have it removed, and replaced with a straw, as I dont' need it for sex.

Am I mentally ill?
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:45 PM
 
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Kind of like George Soros eh?

Exactly!
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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Can you give me any other possible situation where it would not be considered a mental illness if someone couldn't accept what they are, and wanted to have drastic surgery and take dangerous medications to become something they are not?

Can you?
I'm not a psychiatrist, and I doubt you are either. I do know that human sexuality and psychology are very complicated, so I think it's best to leave these proclamations to the experts.

You keep saying that they don't consider transsexualism to be a disorder, but they do - at least when it's called "gender identity disorder".

https://health.google.com/health/ref...ntity+disorder
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