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Old 04-29-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: NoVA
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Well, if Puerto Rico becomes a state, what of the flag? We'd have to have 51 stars. How would you lay it out so it looked good?
Too easy.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:58 PM
 
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Its been reported that a bill to propose the statehood for Puerto Rico is on the list for Congress in the next week.

Any thoughts?
Today, Thursday April 29, 2010 - 5:55 p.m. CST

Congress has just passed a resolution to instruct Puerto Rico to vote to decide if it wants to continue the status quo or go for statehood.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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National Review: The Puerto Rico Democracy Act
by Alex Castellanos
April 29, 2010

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The Puerto Rico Democracy Act, H.R. 2499, would set up a process to clarify the sunlit American island's vague political status. Unlike the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico faces no constitutional challenges to the clarification of its status. Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the U.S. This bill would authorize the Puerto Rican government to conduct a referendum asking voters if they wish to keep or change their current political status. If a majority of voters want a change, a second referendum would be held to ask if they prefer statehood, independence, or sovereignty.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Its been reported that a bill to propose the statehood for Puerto Rico is on the list for Congress in the next week.

Any thoughts?
It is a good idea. Another blue state!
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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It is a good idea. Another blue state!
Great idea....Obama is looking forward to welcoming in PR as the 58th state.
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Its been reported that a bill to propose the statehood for Puerto Rico is on the list for Congress in the next week.

Any thoughts?
They would need a lot of infrastructure upgrades, but maybe it is time we give it more thought. I also think the people enjoy their low taxes, heh.

I have not given it much thought, so i could not really add much to the debate.
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:50 PM
 
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Default You might want to read this.......

THERE IS MORE GOING ON BEHIND THIS PUERTO RICAN VOTE THAN THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF..


Let's look at the facts.
1. In the past when Puerto Rico voted no to statehood the question asked on the ballot was, 'Do you want to become a State?' Each time this question has been asked the citizens of Puerto Rico have overwhelmingly voted that they do NOT want to become a state.
2. The current bill introduced in Congress is NOT, in fact, intended to 'grant Puerto Rico the right to decide if they want statehood,' as lying Congressmen and Senators claim. This bill changes the wording of the question that is to be put to the citizens of Puerto Rico--a scheme designed to trick the citizens into something they have already indicated they do not want.
3. The bill would require Puerto Rico to ask the following question on the ballot. In place of 'Do you want to become a State' would be the question 'Do you want to maintain current status?' This is key. By changing the wording on the ballot one gets an entirely different result. Polls, for example, indicate that Puerto Ricans do not want to maintain the status quo (which means they want some changes) yet they still do not want statehood. But this ballot would not even ask the question 'Do you want Statehood.'
4. A plurality of votes for not maintaining the status quo would then lead to a second ballot initiative, which would give Puerto Ricans a set of choices that would NOT include 'maintaining the current status.' By removing that option, the citizens would ( bold type added )
then prefer to become a state rather than choose any of the other options, such as complete independence from the United States.
5. Puerto Rico at that point, with a plurality of votes, would implement the so-called 'Tennessee Plan,' which is a scheme the old territory that included Tennessee used to force the statehood issue on Congress.
6. The entity in Puerto Rico that is pushing statehood is a political party established, interestingly enough, in 2008--the same year of the rise of Barack Obama--and is called 'the New Progressive Party,' whose main objective is the push toward statehood.
7. The push by dishonest politicians in both Parties in Congress for Puerto Rican statehood comes at the very same time many are pushing for complete amnesty and citizenship for illegal aliens--20 million strong--who would immediately have the right to vote. It is no coincidence that Leftwing organizations are livid over Arizona's new law, which is designed to enforce U.S. LAW. These groups know that whoever gains the support of 20 million illegals will get their vote once they are granted amnesty. They also know that this, added to Puerto Rico's statehood, would all but guarantee that 'progressive' liberal, Marxist Democrats would be elected to control Congress and the White House for at least another 60 years.
8. THIS is the 'fundamental change' Obama spoke about. This is the end-game. You change America forever by putting together a coalition of minority groups who then vote for whoever gives them the freebies.
Nearly every Democrat in Congress supports this subversive, and even treasonous scheme. Some Republicans support it, such as RINOS Lindsey Graham, Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, and even John McCain when he is not having to run for office.

BELOW IS THE LINK TO THE PREVIOUS COPY/PASTE MATERIAL
Puerto Rican statehood--stealth method to steal elections for 60 years?


HERE IS ANOTHER EYE OPENING ARTICLE:

Rigging an Election in Puerto Rico - Hans A. von Spakovsky - The Corner on National Review Online=

tiberius
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:26 PM
 
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Why debate what others have to say, when you can debate the actual legislation?

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...2499ih.txt.pdf

The first plebiscite ask two simple questions:

‘‘(1) Puerto Rico should continue to have its
14 present form of political status. If you agree, mark
here ll15 .

16 ‘‘(2) Puerto Rico should have a different political
status. If you agree, mark here ll17 .’’.

I think even voters in Palm Beach County could figure this one out.

If the voters choose #2 then a second plebiscite is called with three questions:

(1) Independence: Puerto Rico should become
10 fully independent from the United States. If you
agree, mark here ll11 .

12 (2) Sovereignty in Association with the United
13 States: Puerto Rico and the United States should
14 form a political association between sovereign na15
tions that will not be subject to the Territorial
16 Clause of the United States Constitution. If you
agree, mark here ll17 .

18 (3) Statehood: Puerto Rico should be admitted
19 as a State of the Union. If you agree, mark here

Now them's some tricky questions.

O

Ésas son algunas preguntas difíciles!
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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Plenty of people in Puerto Rico ready to receive goods from the US tax payer.

Also - House of Reps number is set at 435. So seats would be taken away from other areas - based on the 2010 census of course.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Plenty of people in Puerto Rico ready to receive goods from the US tax payer.

Also - House of Reps number is set at 435. So seats would be taken away from other areas - based on the 2010 census of course.
Glad you pointed that out!

I heard on the radio today that the two sponsors of this bill feel duped. They did not realize the full implication of where this would take us.
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