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Old 04-28-2010, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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You support Obama bullying you? It seems that its fair to say that you either agree with every one of his policies and decisions, or you simply don't mind being bullied. Because its YOU he's bullying when you oppose his decisions. Why do you perpetuate the wimpy, limp-wristed, culture of liberalism?

At least conservatives are ballsy enough to stand up and fight back.

That's embarrassing for you folks, it really is.
How so?? What would I get by fighting back against policies I believe in?! The only problem I (we) have is the dogged refusal of the right to get on board with Obama and help him do the right thing. Bush would have declared martial law if he had faced the kind of dug in heels Obama has. As it was, Bush used a very cowardly tactic of privately signing counter orders to publicly signed legislation. I understand this was a very little used presidential device prior to his election. I further understand Bush used this tactic more times than all previous presidents combined to get his way, even when, in hindsight, the level of opposition he faced in the House and the Senate was minimal. Obama is at least forthright. And, just so you know, Obama cannot simultaneously be a clueless dunce AND a master manipulator. He cannot simultaneously be a weakling AND a bully. He cannot simultaneously be a Marxist AND in bed with Corporate Capitalists. When you all decide exactly what he is you may realize he is not what you think. The U.S. has not fundamentally changed its economic or social architecture since inception. Democrat/Republican = same damn thing. Individual presidential personalities and ideologies have lent shape, style if you will, to the essentially Capitalist posture of America. That has always sparked debate and statements of preference for a particular style of leadership. The difference between how detractors of previous presidents have deported themselves and the way detractors of Obama are deporting themselves is quite telling.

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Old 04-28-2010, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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You support Obama bullying you? It seems that its fair to say that you either agree with every one of his policies and decisions, or you simply don't mind being bullied. Because its YOU he's bullying when you oppose his decisions. Why do you perpetuate the wimpy, limp-wristed, culture of liberalism?

At least conservatives are ballsy enough to stand up and fight back.

That's embarrassing for you folks, it really is.
From my perspective, the President has played 'Mr. Nice Guy' for too long. While my response was somewhat facetious, and I certainly do not agree with the writer's suppositions (dark and insidious, really?), one can only reach out a hand and have it slapped so many times. Frankly, I'm amazed he put up with it as long as he did.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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The incompetent, corrupt president has been a complete failure. The people who were duped by him are a riot to watch.
Saying he is successful is not going to change the facts....
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Two more years and his miserable a$$ is long gone...[/
Two years......too long!
NOW.....would be so much nicer.

By then......America won't have a pot to whizz in.....and who knows how high the suicide rate will be.

LET the WAL-MART Corporation steer the course of America's future.......they KNOW what their doing!
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:22 PM
 
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His bulling doesn't bother me as much as his lying.
The latest example is the comments on the Arizona
anti-illegal immigration law. I assume as the President
he must know what is in the law before commenting on it.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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But we recognized this unflattering trait a while ago. Notice on every piece of legislation, on every disagree that he has with those that disagree with his policies, the behavior and tactics are the same.

News Headlines

Since when is an OPINION/COMMENTARY considered NEWS HEADLINES?

Too funny !!!
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:27 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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Obama bullies everyone who disagrees with his vision, provides a little pushback, or criticizes him.

He's like a 12 year old: emotionally immature and globally naive.

Every time he gets a little pushback, he blames republicans for "stalling" or "politics as usual" when his party has the lion's share of the power.

What happened to "There is no red state. There is no blue state. There is only the United States" speech?

How far we have come from that to rallying all Latinos, Blacks, and women to rock the vote.

A unifying force, he is not.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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Who says conservatives don't believe is recycling? How many more times will this story be posted?

And of course its just one person's OPINION.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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As it was, Bush used a very cowardly tactic of privately signing counter orders to publicly signed legislation. I understand this was a very little used presidential device prior to his election. I further understand Bush used this tactic more times than all previous presidents combined to get his way, even when, in hindsight, the level of opposition he faced in the House and the Senate was minimal.
You must mean signing statements. I guess you are not aware of this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/us....html?_r=2&hpw

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WASHINGTON — President Obama has issued signing statements claiming the authority to bypass dozens of provisions of bills enacted into law since he took office, provoking mounting criticism by lawmakers from both parties.
From Barney Frank in letter to obama;

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“During the previous administration, all of us were critical of the president’s assertion that he could pick and choose which aspects of Congressional statutes he was required to enforce,” they wrote. “We were therefore chagrined to see you appear to express a similar attitude.”
Let us remember what candidate obama said;


YouTube - Obama on Presidential Signing Statements
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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one can only reach out a hand and have it slapped so many times.
Oh, please, point us to when obama had a hand out in bipartisanship.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:44 PM
 
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Oh, please, point us to when obama had a hand out in bipartisanship.
He's tried far more than I would have.
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