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Old 04-29-2010, 06:08 PM
 
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Thanks for the comopliments/reps.

The only thing is that IF Congress changes the winds of power, there will be pot holes, land mines, and trap doors they (the right in Congress) will need to be aware of. It won't be as simple as repealing everything and we are back on track.

People who vote them in will have to be patient and understand Obama will still be there with veto power - and his pawns will be out there ratcheting up fear and emotion. The are enemies who have access to high places. We need to know who they are and deal with them accordingly.
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:36 PM
 
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Outrageously funny atizar. A tip of the hat to you. After a batch of comments unanimously decrying Obama and his agenda all you can do is lift the definition of Lame Duck and from a 'voluntary' lame database source no less. In the common vernacular, known as colloquial, the term Lame Duck is use to indicate a politician, usually a President, who has lost his power by virtue of losing his control of congress and the ability to thus make new law. He retains the title for the balance of his term, but is essentially impotent to effect change or a Lame Duck.

Shame I had to waste this much effort and space explaining this to you, but I consider it a "public service". That, for you, should need no further defining!
That's a misuse of the term. A "lame duck" isn't just a weak politician or an executive lacking legislative support.

Lame duck - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

There are many ways to describe such an executive. "Ineffectual". "Impotent". "Unable to command legislative support".

"Lame duck" doesn't really cut it.

But hey. That's all just semantics. Hardly worth arguing over.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:38 AM
 
Location: New York (liberal cesspool)
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That's a misuse of the term. A "lame duck" isn't just a weak politician or an executive lacking legislative support.

Lame duck - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

There are many ways to describe such an executive. "Ineffectual". "Impotent". "Unable to command legislative support".

"Lame duck" doesn't really cut it.

But hey. That's all just semantics. Hardly worth arguing over.
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That's all just semantics. Hardly worth arguing over.
I disagree. In the arena of debate a circumspect attention to detail and the meaning and inflection of words and phrases is paramount to making or defending one's position. Words mean things and as such should be accurate.
A dismissive attitude in this matter only dumbs down the level of such debate. And, as you have confirmed from a legitimate source, it is as I stated:
"Unable to command legislative support".
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:42 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Incorrect? Hardly. Obama supports the illegals/pro-illegals and has denounced the Tea Party protesters. That's fact.
If this is indeed factual, you can provide credible links to your assertions.
Can't you?
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:52 AM
 
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I bet they felt like total fools staring down those grannies and grandpas and soccer moms. They're just doing their jobs but you know they probably had better things to do.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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I disagree. In the arena of debate a circumspect attention to detail and the meaning and inflection of words and phrases is paramount to making or defending one's position. Words mean things and as such should be accurate.
A dismissive attitude in this matter only dumbs down the level of such debate. And, as you have confirmed from a legitimate source, it is as I stated:
"Unable to command legislative support".
Well, since words mean things, perhaps we will belabor this point a bit longer and you'll pay closer attention to mine. All of those terms I used were potential replacements that I was offering for the term "lame duck", as using this term as synonymous to the terms I offered misses the mark.

What Merriam Webster says is this:
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1 : one that is weak or that falls behind in ability or achievement; especially chiefly British : an ailing company
2 : an elected official or group continuing to hold political office during the period between the election and the inauguration of a successor
3 : one whose position or term of office will soon end
Lame duck - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Now, definition 1 might fit your usage, but it's so broad as to be a stretch. It could cover anyone you consider to be lacking in ability or achievement. By that standard, pretty much every politician is someone's lame duck.

Furthermore, I don't have access to the OED online, but on this site, you'll find a quoted segment of the OED that outlines the development of the usage of the term. Seems it started in reference to those a financial defaulter, and grew to mean a politician who is not or cannot be re-elected. wordwizard.com - View topic - lame duck

So, in short, the use of the term to refer to Obama, by virtue of any existing usage, is imprecise, at best.

If you truly believe in the power and precision of words, you must appreciate that. The only reason that I offered that such a discussion of semantics is essentially meaningless was to avoid further belaboring the point.
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:06 AM
 
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I can't help but laugh. The more wackaloon the arguments get, the more off point, the more I know who I will NEVER vote for again.

You folks simply don't give a rats behind whose rights are trampled on and that's what makes you the lousy example of citizenship you've taught your own children. No wonder they wish you'd just flake off the planet.
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Can't wait till the day Swat teams round the nation go...."Do what? Uh, no dude you're smoking some serious crack. PASS!"
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Default iphone 5 release date

Exactly what is the significant difference concerning the apple iphone 4 and iphone 5 which are coming out for United states? i'd like to figure out should it be worth it to acquire the iphone 4 or if i should just wait for an apple iphone 5.
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