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There was a report on the radio saying that from 2012 on in Australia cigarette makers are only allowed to sell their stuff in standardized brand-independent packages, no more logos such as camels, or slogans allowed. Instead those packages will be plastered with health warnings. The price per package will also be increased drastically by almost $3. All advertising for cigarettes will be prohibited. The goal is to destroy the image of smoking as a cool habit and thus its attractiveness especially with teenagers.
Will those measures achieve the goal of reducing the number of smokers in Australia by 1/3? Can those measures be copied in other countries where there are more powerful tobacco lobbies and big cigarette makers, e.g. in the US or in Germany?
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There was a report on the radio saying that from 2012 on in Australia cigarette makers are only allowed to sell their stuff in standardized brand-independent packages, no more logos such as camels, or slogans allowed. Instead those packages will be plastered with health warnings. The price per package will also be increased drastically by almost $3. All advertising for cigarettes will be prohibited. The goal is to destroy the image of smoking as a cool habit and thus its attractiveness especially with teenagers.
Will those measures achieve the goal of reducing the number of smokers in Australia by 1/3? Can those measures be copied in other countries where there are more powerful tobacco lobbies and big cigarette makers, e.g. in the US or in Germany?
Anything that will discourage smoking is good. I think a pack of cigs should be $5 or more and smokers should be shown as the uncool drug addicted slobs they are. I would never hire one if I ran a business. And the TV should show people with end stage lung cancer laying in their own vomit racked with pain unable to breathe or talk.
Why not quit beating around the bush and just outlaw tobacco?
Sure, they would have to find a source of revenue to replace the taxes, but surely they could find something that EVERYBODY uses (restaurant food is often unhealthy, put a 10% tax on all prepared food) to tax so they woulod make even more money.
EITHER OUTLAW THE JUNK, OR SHUT UP ABOUT IT!
Why not quit beating around the bush and just outlaw tobacco?
Sure, they would have to find a source of revenue to replace the taxes, but surely they could find something that EVERYBODY uses (restaurant food is often unhealthy, put a 10% tax on all prepared food) to tax so they woulod make even more money.
EITHER OUTLAW THE JUNK, OR SHUT UP ABOUT IT!
Amen, and this is coming from a smoker. Not gonna lie... there are times when I do enjoy smoking... with a beer, after dinner, after sex. What I don't like is the addictive side of it. What I would like to see if a viable way to help smokers quit. I've tried to do it with the gum, and the lozenges. To some degree it worked except when I got one of those over powering urges, and that is when I'd start up again. Not going to try the patch, because my luck I'd forget it was on light up, and drop dead of a heart attack. Cold turkey is not an option! I work 2 jobs, and there is a lot of stress right now, so.... I'd end up going off of the deep end. I'm thinking of those e-cigarettes, as I have heard a lot of positive results from them, but I'm still trying to sell my wife on them. She thinks that they are too expensive, and I tried to sell her on the fact that investing in one of them is far less expensive than buying cigarettes. Furthermore, from the research that I've done, they are far safer than real cigarettes to me, and others around me. I am a respectful smoker. I don't smoke inside, because my wife doesn't smoke, and I don't want my kid breathing it in. With that though, I am not going to begrudge other smokers, and if I owned my own company I would not discriminate against smokers.
P.S. Any ex-smokers out there have any knowledge of the the e-cigarettes? Have you tried them? If so, have they worked for you?
Please no more laws. Let me make my own bad choices. People have smoke tobacco for thousands of years. It's not gonna stop. The whole cool image thing comes from the stigma attached to it. It makes you look like a rebel of sorts. The more you outlaw it the, the badder it becomes to buck society and light up.
Funny, didn't you vote for Obama. I'd smoke a butt with him, don't care for his policies, but enjoying a smooth mellow grit with the commander-n-chief would be kinda cool. Maybe if I assault one of his friends, and he calls me stupid, we can have a cigarette summit.
There was a report on the radio saying that from 2012 on in Australia cigarette makers are only allowed to sell their stuff in standardized brand-independent packages, no more logos such as camels, or slogans allowed. Instead those packages will be plastered with health warnings. The price per package will also be increased drastically by almost $3. All advertising for cigarettes will be prohibited. The goal is to destroy the image of smoking as a cool habit and thus its attractiveness especially with teenagers.
Will those measures achieve the goal of reducing the number of smokers in Australia by 1/3? Can those measures be copied in other countries where there are more powerful tobacco lobbies and big cigarette makers, e.g. in the US or in Germany?
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P.S. Any ex-smokers out there have any knowledge of the the e-cigarettes? Have you tried them? If so, have they worked for you?[/quote]
I am an ex-smoker I quit on Dec 7 2009. I tried the e-cigarette thing, nope it did not work. I used the patch, 10 weeks and support. Also if you want to quit you will, no excuse in the world will let you lite up again. I bought a treadmill and everytime I wanted one I hopped on. I know you work 2 jobs oh and sunflower seeds helped LOTS. Go for it.
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P.S. Any ex-smokers out there have any knowledge of the the e-cigarettes? Have you tried them? If so, have they worked for you?
I am an ex-smoker I quit on Dec 7 2009. I tried the e-cigarette thing, nope it did not work. I used the patch, 10 weeks and support. Also if you want to quit you will, no excuse in the world will let you lite up again. I bought a treadmill and everytime I wanted one I hopped on. I know you work 2 jobs oh and sunflower seeds helped LOTS. Go for it.[/quote]
I guess different things work for different people. I guess I have to find what will work for me. I heard something about sunflower seeds. You're right, I have to want to quit. Guess, I won't eat, have sex, have a beer or my morning coffee, and I'll be good to go. LOL! J/K
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Not gonna lie... there are times when I do enjoy smoking... with a beer, after dinner, after sex
. What I don't like is the addictive side of it. What I would like to see if a viable way to help smokers quit. I've tried to do it with the gum, and the lozenges. To some degree it worked except when I got one of those over powering urges, and that is when I'd start up again. Not going to try the patch, because my luck I'd forget it was on light up, and drop dead of a heart attack. Cold turkey is not an option! I work 2 jobs, and there is a lot of stress right now, so.... I'd end up going off of the deep end. I'm thinking of those e-cigarettes, as I have heard a lot of positive results from them, but I'm still trying to sell my wife on them. She thinks that they are too expensive, and I tried to sell her on the fact that investing in one of them is far less expensive than buying cigarettes. Furthermore, from the research that I've done, they are far safer than real cigarettes to me, and others around me. I am a respectful smoker. I don't smoke inside, because my wife doesn't smoke, and I don't want my kid breathing it in. With that though, I am not going to begrudge other smokers, and if I owned my own company I would not discriminate against smokers. 
Go for it.