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Old 04-30-2010, 09:56 AM
 
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I live in Denver, a city with a high Hispanic population and I have not personally noticed this (I am also white). In all honesty, most of the Mexican men that I have met are good, hard working and peaceful people, quite opposite of the descriptions presented above.

For the record, the state of Colorado is not "considering" a law similar to that in Arizona. We have just made the headlines because the Republican Gubernatorial candidate Scott McInnis said that if he were elected, he would like to "enact a law similar to that of Arizona's." Even if this clown were to get elected, they would have to get the bill through our Democratic majority legislature and I don't see that happening.

Does this mean you can live side by side with criminals an it won't bother you any? It's a real question.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:03 AM
 
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Does this mean you can live side by side with criminals an it won't bother you any? It's a real question.
Actually, I think your real question is, "Can you live side by side with Hispanics, criminals or not?" The answer, for the majority of intelligent Americans is yes.

There are criminals of every color and ancestry. Singling out Hispanics as being "badder" than the rest is either a pent up fear or bravado.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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im sure that everyone knows that we all have to show id to go somewhere what is the big deal if you are legal ? .
I live in a city that is more than half Hispanic, a lot of them probably illegal, and I never carry ID. When I walk to the supermarket several times a week, I slip my credit card in my shirt pocket. When I walk to the library, I slip my library card in my pocket. I've never been asked for ID. For certain official transactions, I've been asked for ID maybe once or twice a year. I expect my friends and neighbors of Hispanic origin to enjoy the same right and privilege and courtesy, which good men have fought and died for, and it pains me to think they don't get it.

I was even bumped by a car in a parking lot, and the driver insisted on reporting it to the police to protect himself against me making a claim at some future date. When the police came, I had no ID. No problem, he asked me for my name and address and phoned it in, and everything was cool. That's My America. It IS a big deal. When America becomes a country where only certain people (or none) enjoy that privilege, I will take my passport and find a free country to live in. There are plenty of them.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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I can't wait for amnesty. These quassi libers are going to find out the Hispanic male is one macho critter to deal with.

No women will be able to go anywhere or do anything un-escorted. In the Hispanic worls the women are treated like sluts when they are not escorted by a old woman in the case of a female child, or a husband in the case of a woman.

The Hispanic male has no problem with beating a woman down either, and more so if she isn't escorted.

It should prove to be interesting.
Your evaluation is certainly interesting, not the same thing as calling it truth, but, interesting none-the-less. I have spent quite some time in Mexico, C. and S. America. I speak the language fairly well and am friends with quite a few Hispanic people, both male and female and my experience is nothing like you describe. In fact, your rant smacks of the same racism I've come to expect from the undereducated and over opinionated. The same types of arguments have been utilized against blacks, irish, italian, and poles. All have been equally flawed and offensive. How about, instead of spouting off what some moron has told you, you do the research, visit Honduras, or El Salvador - Peru or Argentina, spend a month, do some missionary work (no, I am not a christian, but, some of these folks actually do good work, others are just thieves in clerical garb) help them build a school, then, see how your opinion changes. Remaining ignorant and bigoted takes no effort.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Denver metro
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Does this mean you can live side by side with criminals an it won't bother you any? It's a real question.
No, I don't want to live side by side criminals. What's your point? That all Mexicans are criminals?
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:34 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I live in a city that is more than half Hispanic, a lot of them probably illegal, and I never carry ID. When I walk to the supermarket several times a week, I slip my credit card in my shirt pocket. When I walk to the library, I slip my library card in my pocket. I've never been asked for ID. For certain official transactions, I've been asked for ID maybe once or twice a year. I expect my friends and neighbors of Hispanic origin to enjoy the same right and privilege and courtesy, which good men have fought and died for, and it pains me to think they don't get it.

I was even bumped by a car in a parking lot, and the driver insisted on reporting it to the police to protect himself against me making a claim at some future date. When the police came, I had no ID. No problem, he asked me for my name and address and phoned it in, and everything was cool. That's My America. It IS a big deal. When America becomes a country where only certain people (or none) enjoy that privilege, I will take my passport and find a free country to live in. There are plenty of them.
im sorry are you saying you have never had to show id when using your credit card at a store ? cause we get asked all the time and i am surprised at the police not asking you for your license I find that hard to believe . we get asked all the time for our id when using a credit card and half the people in line have also been asked before us . and this is done in several states that I know of . Get real since 9/11 no country is free .
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: In the north country fair
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It cannot be disputed that there are violent people from all races. But that isn't really the problem. The problem is the cultural differences and the lack of assimilation:

Study: Some immigrants assimilate faster - USATODAY.com

Mexico and Mexicans by Fred Reed

I don't agree with everything ^^ says; he's a bit harsh. But he makes some very good points about who is immigrating to the U.S., why and what their attitudes are towards the U.S. (which I have found to be very true).

Re: Mexicans giving you dirty looks, these are the exact people that the article refers to. They are uneducated and violent, which is why they are reacting that way. But not all Mexicans are like that.
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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Actually, I think your real question is, "Can you live side by side with Hispanics, criminals or not?" The answer, for the majority of intelligent Americans is yes.

There are criminals of every color and ancestry. Singling out Hispanics as being "badder" than the rest is either a pent up fear or bravado.
Nope..... I mean can YOU live side by side with a criminal, and because a lot of other people cn't and won't. They won't live next door to sex offenders, and murders either.

They won't live next door to section 8 govt housing with a stench from the over loaded septic system and the 5,500 chickens living on the 4th floor either.

You might be able to deal with that but the majority of Americans can't.

Hell, where i live the tourists can't stand the stink of a cow farm.

I lived side by side with legal Hispanics and still they have some attitidues most Amercians won't like. I did escort my wife every single place she went, since she isn't accustomed to be taunted by the hispanic male calling her chickita.. and being treated like a ****.

Bravado, you betcha.. I scare silly lawyers and bankers all the time.

I am a red blooded American male not yet tamed by feminism, and I carry 2 guns every day I leave home, and just one at home every day.

In some ways i hope for illegals and amnesty since if they can break the law and get away with so can I.

I already do, since I am land locked behind the soviet republics of mass and NY, with Canda to my north. Like i said i do not go anywhere with out a gun... That means in 05 into 06 I brought a Kimber 45 all the way to Cali, hitting 40 states, while my permit was only valid in just 18 of them, on a big fat motorcycle, with my wife.

See what interest your banker will pay on my machismo...

There is just one way to change me, and to do it, ya gotta kill me. Good luck with that. I got 1 bad guy under my belt now, and am hunting for another. That one killed my father in law and his 2nd wife.

Just incase you get the idea I push buttons all day, i don't. This is my 2nd lunch time for the day, as I burn calories cutting down trees, or fixing big machines. Today it's trees. CD is how i entertain myself at luch.

This lunch is 2 think tuna sandwiches, chips and 2 beers, and I gotta get back in the woods. The first lunch was pancakes with real maple syrup on them. I made that too.

This selective cutting gets trees hung up, and my saw is held over my head a lot.. I am buff for 58 years at 150 lbs.. not a trace of fat, no blood pressure problems either..

Last, I have 0 problems with skin color, or real legal immigrants.. i will not cotton to illegal anything other than my own protection, since no one can do it better for me. Don't like it too bad.

I want the illegals to pack their crap and leave. Then if they want they can apply just like anyone else.

My father and his fathers, my son don't/didn't fight war for this crap and if the poltics don't change some pork fat poly tic leeches will wish they had moved to mehico. Hell, right now my son is learning arabic so he can go fight.
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:12 PM
 
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It cannot be disputed that there are violent people from all races. But that isn't really the problem. The problem is the cultural differences and the lack of assimilation:

Study: Some immigrants assimilate faster - USATODAY.com

Mexico and Mexicans by Fred Reed

I don't agree with everything ^^ says; he's a bit harsh. But he makes some very good points about who is immigrating to the U.S., why and what their attitudes are towards the U.S. (which I have found to be very true).

Re: Mexicans giving you dirty looks, these are the exact people that the article refers to. They are uneducated and violent, which is why they are reacting that way. But not all Mexicans are like that.
eehhh chicita ..... I agree with you... LOL
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:25 PM
 
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You might be surprised to learn how many "quasi libers" have actually been to Mexico, or actually have close friends of Mexican origin, and actually know something about Mexico and the people from that culture. They do not need to be "educated" about Mexican culture by right-wing blog-readers who toss out a one-word epithet that purports to sum up centuries of culture in huge country that they know nothing about except a few stereotypes picked up from comic books, B movies and bar-room banter.

Why don't you tell me what Hispanic culture is like. I've lived in six Latin American countries and traveled in all of them and speak fairly good Spanish. I'm dying to know what I've missed. Please tell me.
Liberal or not, it isn't necessary for any of us to have "actually been in Mexico". There is no reason for any of us to know the hispanic culture. We don't need to have close friends of Mexican origin. We don't need to know about Mexico. WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES, NOT MEXICO.

Because you are a sympathizer doesn't mean the rest of us should have to be. A huge amount of AMERICANS resent like hell the Mexicans ILLEGALLY entering our country.

We aren't going to just hand over the United States to the mexicans because they want it.
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