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Old 04-30-2010, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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And the fact that you can HEAR me, speaks volumes eh?

Nahh,just trying to figure out where all the noise was coming from.......you have a good evening now...
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:11 PM
 
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There are already changes being made to state issued drivers licnenses and ID cards as mandated by federal government. Use to be here you could show a local governamnt bill or SS to get a ID card . How Texas DMV requires a certified birth certificate to get one and your thumb printed on the ID.The clerk stated that the fedral government was mandating it to states and would be required of all by a certain year or lose funding. Its a huge task and they are starting slowly with the people requesting IDs and driver licenses and renwal.ZEvelually you wouldn't be abe to do much without a certified ID card or driver license such as board a airline.
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:12 PM
 
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This whole conversation is cute, IMO.

It's like the ones in bondage screaming the loudest on who has the biggest chains.

Check this little video out, and get back to me.


YouTube - Slavery by Consent Pt.2 (Introduction)


YouTube - Slavery by Consent Pt.3 (All 'Capital')
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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Are you sickened yet? Betsy, you listening?

Here you go.


YouTube - Slavery by Consent Pt.4 (The SIN)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrA3z...eature=related
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:55 AM
 
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So the Bible lies now huh? You really believe that too don't you? That's it's still the same old regular day huh? First the illegal immigrants, then you and I!! Who can stop them? If you don't believe it now while it's happening to others, is it going to make any difference when it STARTS (and mind you, it will) happening to you and those you love? Wow!!

Well, Betsy, if this is actually the point you are going to make, then yes the bible does lie.

It has lied every time some goof ball predicted the second coming and was wrong.

It lied when it was said social security numbers was the mark of the beast, it lied when it was said bar codes were the mark of the beast.

It lies now when it is said an electronic id device is the mark of the beast and it lies when it is said a national id is the mark of the beast.

You speak alot in term of shushing someone to listen. Maybe it is your turn.


All of these so called marks of the beast and the fear behind them misses one important and more significant factor.

That factor is that none of them in the past or present ever suggested in any manner that a person must renounce their faith in Christ.

The bottom line is none of this is actually biblical, it is fear mongering so that those spreading this nonsense can feel better about themselves.

Quit spreading lies betsy.
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Well I believe Revelation to be literal and to be future events but I don't think we should live in fear of what is to come. And I don't believe that the ID card is the mark of the beast. There will be no question in the minds of believers when the mark comes to fruition.....no question.
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:00 AM
 
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from the first link:

"No personal information will be stored on the electronic chip contained within the social security card other than the individual's name, date of birth, social security number, and unique biometric identifier."

is there any info out there as to what the unique bio marker will be?
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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from the first link:

"No personal information will be stored on the electronic chip contained within the social security card other than the individual's name, date of birth, social security number, and unique biometric identifier."

is there any info out there as to what the unique bio marker will be?
Probably an image of the fingerprint.

Back in the 1960s people swore up and down that the SS card was the mark of the beast.
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:13 AM
 
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there's no proof the mark will actually be an implant or a tattoo of any kind,imo.perhaps 'on the forehead' means you can just remember a number in your head and key it in,as you do already with your passcode for a debit card (maybe the no. is your ss,perhaps?),or you have the card in your hand for the transaction and you scan it.
either way,it's not as yet part of a one world gov't card,so I wouldn't worry quite yet.That would prob. require a new issue of a card of a different type,and yes,maybe gps and such will be included in such a card.
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Old 05-03-2010, 01:25 PM
 
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there's no proof the mark will actually be an implant or a tattoo of any kind,imo.perhaps 'on the forehead' means you can just remember a number in your head and key it in,as you do already with your passcode for a debit card (maybe the no. is your ss,perhaps?),or you have the card in your hand for the transaction and you scan it.
either way,it's not as yet part of a one world gov't card,so I wouldn't worry quite yet.That would prob. require a new issue of a card of a different type,and yes,maybe gps and such will be included in such a card.
Are you serious right now? You seem to imply that you would have no problem receiving this ID on your HAND or FOREHEAD even though the bible clearly mentions something of the same stature being the mark of the beast?! Even if I was I an unbeliever, I would give Christians the benefit of the doubt at least for that and NOT take it!
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