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Old 05-02-2010, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Can someone explain to me how making it hard for a woman to have an abortion or trying to make it illegal to have an abortion follows the tenants of "small government"?

Shouldn't women be free to make their own decisions about their body?



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Yet you can't sell a kidney, but you can kill your child because it's not convenient?

Also, when conservatives talk about "small government" they're not referring to individual laws, but say the creation of more bureacracy, more departments, more physical government, more federal employees.

You'd have a point if there was a "Department of Preventing Abortion" which had a 2 billion dollar budget, and 10,000 employees.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:22 PM
 
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They only want "big GOVERNMENT" evolved when they want the religious and racist agenda pushed.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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What about the killing of millions of Middle Eastern people? Do their lives not count?
Uh, they're killing each other, it's not us d oing the killing. I know you hate america, and what not, but you don't have to lie to make an argument.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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They only want "big GOVERNMENT" evolved when they want the religious and racist agenda pushed.
And the libbie definition of "racist" if is you didn't vote for Obama, you are a racist.

You do a great job of making yourselves look like complete idiots. Debating with a liberal is like running in the special olympics.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:24 PM
 
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Also, when conservatives talk about "small government" they're not referring to individual laws, but say the creation of more bureacracy, more departments, more physical government, more federal employees.

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That's bull crap! that's just YOUR excuse.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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That's bull crap! that's just YOUR excuse.
Wow, you should get a job being a mindreader, because you can read minds, you know exactly what I'm thinking from across your keyboard. wow! You should offer your services to the messiah as he seems to care about polling so much, he would need a mind reader on his staff! Good luck!
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:26 PM
 
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And the libbie definition of "racist" if is you didn't vote for Obama, you are a racist.

You do a great job of making yourselves look like complete idiots. Debating with a liberal is like running in the special olympics.

No, that your BIASED opinion and definition.


Wow! you are using the PC term as "special olympics"?

I thought you were for NON PC terms
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Yet you can't sell a kidney, but you can kill your child because it's not convenient?

Also, when conservatives talk about "small government" they're not referring to individual laws, but say the creation of more bureacracy, more departments, more physical government, more federal employees.

You'd have a point if there was a "Department of Preventing Abortion" which had a 2 billion dollar budget, and 10,000 employees.
A fetus is not a child.
Before 20 weeks it's just a clump of cells.

Women who have abortions are not doing it for "convenience."
Many times it's a matter of economics.

Of course if these women bring these fetuses to term they'll be criticized if they need WIC, food stamps, Medicaid, etc.

You just can't win with some conservatives.
If you have an abortion you're evil and a sl*t but if you bring the fetus to term and decided to keep your child but you need WIC, food stamps, etc. you're lazy and a "leech" on the system.

I'd have more respect for the anti-abortion movement if they put more time and resources into preventing abortions. Many "pro-life" groups are against birth control. Why be against something that can help prevent abortions if you're SO against abortions?
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:27 PM
 
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Yet you can't sell a kidney,
You can donate a kidney.

Must be the capitalist in you wanting to make $$$
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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A fetus is not a child.
Before 20 weeks it's just a clump of cells.

Women who have abortions are not doing it for "convenience."
Many times it's a matter of economics.

Of course if these women bring these fetuses to term they'll be criticized if they need WIC, food stamps, Medicaid, etc.

You just can't win with some conservatives.
If you have an abortion you're evil and a sl*t but if you bring the fetus to term and decided to keep your child but you need WIC, food stamps, etc. you're lazy and a "leech" on the system.

I'd have more respect for the anti-abortion movement if they put more time and resources into preventing abortions. Many "pro-life" groups are against birth control. Why be against something that can help prevent abortions if you're SO against abortions?
There's your clump of cells.


YouTube - Video of a 20 week old fetus face

Easier to kill something if you deny what it is..


And on your planet, economics has nothing to do with convenience?

"It's not in my best economic interest right now to have this child, so I'll abort it, this has nothing to do with my convience"
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