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For those who can't (or won't) read the article Sheriff Dupnik writes:
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The more fundamental problem with the law is its vague language. It requires law enforcement officials to demand papers from an individual when they have a "reasonable suspicion" that he is an illegal immigrant...
...When used in a law-enforcement context, "reasonable suspicion" is always understood to be subjective, but it must be capable of being articulated. In the case of identifying illegal immigrants, the ambiguity of what this "crime" looks like risks including an individual's appearance, which would seem to violate the Constitution's equal protection clause. Such ambiguity is especially dangerous when prescribed to an issue as fraught with emotion as that of illegal immigration.
I cannot quote the whole article due to the C-D TOS rules. It really is worth a read.
Somehow, I don't think Sheriff Dupnik fits into the "bleeding-heart liberal, out of touch with reality" mold. This is a person who has worked in law enforcement for ~50 years and deals with immigrants (both legal and illegal) on a daily basis.
The only time someone will be required to produce papers, is when they don't have a state issued ID. Last time I got pulled over and it was 4 guys, they asked for all our ID's. No problem, we cooperated, they advised us our vehicle matched the description of a vehicle involved in a crime, although it was 3 hispanic males instead of us 4 white guys, but nobody complained about providing an ID. Must be a common sense thing that isn't as widespread as it should be.
Because you're better than everyone, we just want to quantify it.
I'm wondering how often you read a police report that says "suspect flinched his wrist while handing me his ID, so I stuffed his head into a wall and arrested him" ??
The only time someone will be required to produce papers, is when they don't have a state issued ID. Last time I got pulled over and it was 4 guys, they asked for all our ID's. No problem, we cooperated, they advised us our vehicle matched the description of a vehicle involved in a crime, although it was 3 hispanic males instead of us 4 white guys, but nobody complained about providing an ID. Must be a common sense thing that isn't as widespread as it should be.
The only people who will have a real problem with this, are those who have something to hide. You and your friends had nothing, so it was no big deal, but imagine if you were ILLEGAL; you would have been defensive and paranoid about what the police wanted you for. Imagine you hadn't had any identification and you were ILLEGAL, you would have felt afraid of being stopped.
Bottom line: Only those who have no legitimacy being in the United States will have a serious problem with laws changing. THEY have something to worry about.
If I was in a non-white country LEGALLY, I would simply carry papers with me stating that I was there legally. It wouldn't be a problem for any authorities to stop me to verify my being there. If I moved to a non-white country, I would carry papers with me as well. Why would it be a problem to carry proper papers?
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This is a person who has worked in law enforcement for ~50 years and deals with immigrants (both legal and illegal) on a daily basis.
