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View Poll Results: Is America getting better or worse?
It is getting BETTER. 3 7.89%
It is getting WORSE. 32 84.21%
It is about the same. 1 2.63%
No clue as I went to liberal-taught public schools and the gov't thinks for me. 2 5.26%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-13-2007, 01:29 AM
 
Location: The best country in the world: the USA
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I want you to look at the following cartoons.

http://www.parleyhellewell.com/asay/welfare_sm.gif (broken link)


and


http://www.parleyhellewell.com/asay/education_sm.gif (broken link)


and


http://www.parleyhellewell.com/asay/supreme_court_sm.gif (broken link)


and


http://www.parleyhellewell.com/asay/bears_sm.gif (broken link)

Your opinion: Is America doing better today than it did back in the 1940s and 1950s.

Have we created dumb kids in liberal taught and controlled public schools?

Has the Supreme Court decisions in the 1960s and 1970s (liberal-controlled times) messed up our Country?

Is America creating a lazy society where people refuse to work and love entitlements? Is that society going to contribute to a better future?

Why is America doing better/worse? WHY??


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Old 06-13-2007, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Port St. Lucie and Okeechobee, FL
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You forgot one option in your poll:

"No clue as I let some ridiculous cartoonist think for me"
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Old 06-13-2007, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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Far worse. Too much government, too many taxes, too many whiners who expect hand-outs, too many liberal parents who want to be friends first parents second, too many politicians who want votes via handouts, too many illegals.

The only thing I can do is teach my kids values and how to work hard. I just wonder if the government will have so much control over their lives though for them not to make a difference.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:15 AM
 
Location: ARK-KIN-SAW
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Far worse. Too much government, too many taxes, too many whiners who expect hand-outs, too many liberal parents who want to be friends first parents second, too many politicians who want votes via handouts, too many illegals.

The only thing I can do is teach my kids values and how to work hard. I just wonder if the government will have so much control over their lives though for them not to make a difference.
well said!
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:25 AM
 
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It's sadly get worse. A larger and larger percentage of the population wants the government to take care of them, and they actually think it is their right. . . The attitude that made the U.S a great country is quickly being replaced. . .
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Originally Posted by Nirvana-Guy View Post
I want you to look at the following cartoons.

http://www.parleyhellewell.com/asay/welfare_sm.gif (broken link)


and


http://www.parleyhellewell.com/asay/education_sm.gif (broken link)


and


http://www.parleyhellewell.com/asay/supreme_court_sm.gif (broken link)


and


http://www.parleyhellewell.com/asay/bears_sm.gif (broken link)

Your opinion: Is America doing better today than it did back in the 1940s and 1950s.

Have we created dumb kids in liberal taught and controlled public schools?

Has the Supreme Court decisions in the 1960s and 1970s (liberal-controlled times) messed up our Country?

Is America creating a lazy society where people refuse to work and love entitlements? Is that society going to contribute to a better future?

Why is America doing better/worse? WHY??


Who did those cartoons?
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I wonder just how many of you conservatives have ever had an economic failure (gone broke) caused by your employer moving his work to China, you local banker stealing all the funds, a stock market “revaluation” or somebody you have to take care of racking up a couple of hundred grand in medical bills?

Until you have and have actually tried to get the "free handouts" you do not know what you are talking about. Among other things welfare recipients cannot have any other source of income or any savings and still get help. If you leave everybody to fend for themselves because it is good for them, are you willing to let the people who cannot just starve like bear cubs after a fire has destroyed all the rodents they need to eat?

If you are willing to let people loose all they have worked for due to misfortune or inability then you will be welcome in the Cheap and Mean Club.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:42 AM
 
Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
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GregW, I think welfare is a much needed program for those that have dire needs caused by illness or no jobs BUT having lived in California I cannot tell you how many times I would go to the grocery and see people dripping in gold jewelry buying junk foods with food stamps only to drive off in a very expensive new car, talking on their cell phones.

...or being on welfare and continuing to have baby after baby.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:53 AM
 
Location: ARK-KIN-SAW
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GregW, I think welfare is a much needed program for those that have dire needs caused by illness or no jobs BUT having lived in California I cannot tell you how many times I would go to the grocery and see people dripping in gold jewelry buying junk foods with food stamps only to drive off in a very expensive new car, talking on their cell phones.

...or being on welfare and continuing to have baby after baby.
OR renting out half their house that Hud pays for to someone else and pocketing cash, no lie happens alot. Or getting a job that doesnt pay in checks-strictly cash, dont get me wrong it you need it use it, but Im speaking of those that abuse it. Like the man in the next town here, that gained lots of weight on purpose in order to draw disability...I know its true, he told me and lots of others.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:54 AM
 
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I wonder just how many of you conservatives have ever had an economic failure (gone broke) caused by your employer moving his work to China, you local banker stealing all the funds, a stock market “revaluation” or somebody you have to take care of racking up a couple of hundred grand in medical bills?

Until you have and have actually tried to get the "free handouts" you do not know what you are talking about. Among other things welfare recipients cannot have any other source of income or any savings and still get help. If you leave everybody to fend for themselves because it is good for them, are you willing to let the people who cannot just starve like bear cubs after a fire has destroyed all the rodents they need to eat?

If you are willing to let people loose all they have worked for due to misfortune or inability then you will be welcome in the Cheap and Mean Club.

This is typical of "us vs them" you conservatives, you meanies!

And to answer your question. . . yes, I have actually lost a job due to my company moving jobs overseas (a very well-paying job) And do you know what? And I hate to use the cliche but I picked myself up by the proverbial bootstraps, went back to school and started a new career. And BTW I did not have insurance for several years during that period and I payed out of pocket for any and all medical care.

And incidentally there is nothing mean about believing the goverment job isn't providing a welfare state.

And I am still paying off the loans I had to take out for the schooling. I didn't qualify for a penny of aide. But it was worth every penny. And I had to sell my home and buy a smaller one in a less convenient location all to make it work.

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