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Old 05-09-2010, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I think THIS graph is more indicative of the situation;



Debunking that stimulus/jobs chart;

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=394

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Start with the raw data;



and make it look like this;



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Instead of worrying about how high the line is, we’re only going to worry about how steep the line is. That way, the number will look good even if we keep losing jobs.
The obama sheeple, duped once again.
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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I think THIS graph is more indicative of the situation;



Debunking that stimulus/jobs chart;

Debunking the Obama Stimulus Chart Or “How To Make Numbers Say Anything You Want”



Start with the raw data;



and make it look like this;





The obama sheeple, duped once again.
Those charts are ALL MEANINGLESS, they prove NOTHING. The facts are that we have an economy that is driven by debt, not people's earnings. The facts are that we shipped all of our wealth offshore. As I've said elsewhere on this board, Adam Smith must be rolling in his grave.
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You know..it's a good thing the economy has rebounded.
All those states that took the unemployment part of the stimulus had to change their laws to include part-time workers. That money runs out in 1/2011....a mere 6 months from now.

States don't have that kind of money to support both full time and part time workers that lost jobs.
So better hope the jobs increase stays consistent and goes up and up and up each month.
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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Ahh lying about 9 million again I see. BTW Bush had the single WORST job record of any President since the data was counted by the BLS in 1939. Not only worse than every other two term President, worse than those who didn't have two complete terms, worse than those who served only one term, and worse than those who didn't even serve a full term. Worse than EVERYONE.

1. Bush did have a poor jobs record

2. Obama is president

3. Obama is responsible for job creation

4. Unemployment is at 10%


Obama may shirk responsibility for unemployment and the economy, but I am not so sure that the voters will be as easy on him as he is on himself.
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Old 05-09-2010, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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2. Obama is president

3. Obama is responsible for job creation
Really? Since when has the job of POTUS been to create jobs? This has to be good, please excuse me while I get some popcorn.
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:40 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Simply look at how the BLS came to this conclusion and you will find the vast majority of these 'jobs' do not actually exist,it is a statistical method used by them...

Rah rah.
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Old 05-09-2010, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Simply look at how the BLS came to this conclusion and you will find the vast majority of these 'jobs' do not actually exist,it is a statistical method used by them...

Rah rah.
More conspiracy theories.....
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:03 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Obviously you do not understand how the BLS comes up with employment figures.

It isn't that difficult to find out if you are that interested.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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More conspiracy theories.....
No..it's called the birth/death model. It was a pretty big number this last report too..best modeling of "new jobs created" we've had all year.
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:04 PM
 
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3. Obama is responsible for job creation
So Obama IS a socialist. Of course, we don't live in a centrally planned economy, so I don't see how one person in a public office can create private sector jobs. If you have some of that insight, please do share.
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